The Framework Desktop is a deep disappointment to me. Framework, the company that got into the business with an explicit purpose of building modular and repairable computers, went into a space where that was the norm (desktops), and introduced a PC that was none of those things, at an exorbitant price. When they debuted it, it was marketed specifically as a gaming machine. As much as I want to support them, I cannot reward them for this specific product, as it abandons their fundamental tenets.

Here’s the build. You can see similar builds featured on many YT channels at this point with the new NV10 case and 5060 LP GPU.

Here’s one from ETA Prime

And another from “MRGUI on PC”

This build: ~$1100

Comparable Framework build: ~$1700

I will concede the Framework is still better at a few things:

  • Efficiency (I’m not sure that this is to any degree that’s worth being factored in)
  • Being that it’s more efficient, it’s also quieter
  • Local LLMs (which no one should care about or be using)
  • A bit thinner due to not have a dGPU
  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 months ago

    And you REALLY have totally outsmarted top researchers in AI/ML. Congratulations on knowing better! You should feel special!

    Which corporation released local LLMs like OLMo? Oh wait that’s right, it was a non-profit that released OLMo, not a corporation.

    • artyom@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      23·
      2 months ago

      I didn’t outsmart anyone except the stupid people being duped by trillions of dollars in marketing investment from the largest companies on the planet.

      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
        11·
        2 months ago

        So let me understand how the world works, according to you:

        Corporations have spent “trillions” of dollars to convince “stupid people” to download and run local LLMs… for free…

        Actual facts: OpenAI, the largest player in AI, has raised a total of $59.7 billion in funding over the last 10 years. … “trillions” 🤣

        • artyom@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          Wrong. I didn’t say anything like that. You are once again intentionally trying to redirect the conversation back to local LLMs when I have done nothing but speak about LLMs in general. More marketing in proprietary LLMs = more adoption in LLMs, local or otherwise. You obviously know this, but once again have no interest in any good faith discussion, so this conversation is pointless.

          • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
            31·
            2 months ago

            I have done nothing but speak about LLMs in general

            …

            Local LLMs (which no one should care about or be using)

            Because they serve no purpose.

            ^ this you? Lol.

            You want to talk about good faith discussion, as if you’re not literally making things up like “trillions” in “marketing investment” with no evidence or sources. As if you don’t ignore any facts that disrupt your conspiracy theory, like OpenAI has only raised $59.7 billion, and cherry-pick the parts of the discussion that you respond to and the parts you ignore.

            Who, exactly, is spending “trillions” of dollars on AI “marketing”? This question requires an answer for your claims to be taken seriously.

            Are the companies that are spending billions to develop LLMs the ones pushing the “marketing” or are they the ones being duped by the “marketing”? Or somehow its both at once and they’ve tricked themselves into developing LLMs? Cognitive dissonance.