The Framework Desktop is a deep disappointment to me. Framework, the company that got into the business with an explicit purpose of building modular and repairable computers, went into a space where that was the norm (desktops), and introduced a PC that was none of those things, at an exorbitant price. When they debuted it, it was marketed specifically as a gaming machine. As much as I want to support them, I cannot reward them for this specific product, as it abandons their fundamental tenets.
Here’s the build. You can see similar builds featured on many YT channels at this point with the new NV10 case and 5060 LP GPU.
Here’s one from ETA Prime
And another from “MRGUI on PC”
This build: ~$1100
Comparable Framework build: ~$1700
I will concede the Framework is still better at a few things:
- Efficiency (I’m not sure that this is to any degree that’s worth being factored in)
- Being that it’s more efficient, it’s also quieter
- Local LLMs (which no one should care about or be using)
- A bit thinner due to not have a dGPU


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^ this you? Lol.
You want to talk about good faith discussion, as if you’re not literally making things up like “trillions” in “marketing investment” with no evidence or sources. As if you don’t ignore any facts that disrupt your conspiracy theory, like OpenAI has only raised $59.7 billion, and cherry-pick the parts of the discussion that you respond to and the parts you ignore.
Who, exactly, is spending “trillions” of dollars on AI “marketing”? This question requires an answer for your claims to be taken seriously.
Are the companies that are spending billions to develop LLMs the ones pushing the “marketing” or are they the ones being duped by the “marketing”? Or somehow its both at once and they’ve tricked themselves into developing LLMs? Cognitive dissonance.