• mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Just an FYI, since privacy seems to be a big concern for you… AirBnB used to allow hosts to hide cameras inside of their rented spaces. It was explicitly allowed in their renting rules, under the premise of allowing owners to enforce rules and collect evidence in case of excessive mess/damage/theft. They banned hidden cameras in 2024, but over half of rental owners still admit to using them, and about half of all guests still report finding one inside of their rented spaces if they bother to look.

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      Horror story from Germany: colleague from my former workplace was living a bit after away and always rented local AirBnB locations until she found several hidden cameras, including one in the bedroom. This was before the official ban, but I’m never going to use the platform again.

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      AirBnB never allowed hidden cameras; they allowed visible indoor cameras in common areas like a living room or kitchen. This isn’t to say that some nefarious hosts might have hidden cameras, which has always been an issue, but to say that they explicitly allowed it in their policy is patently false.

      Here’s the archived version of the policy page in 2022: Use of cameras and recording devices

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        Just hypothetically speaking, is it against the end user license agreement to use a Wi-Fi jammer?

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      I meant privacy moreso as in coming and going as I please without interacting with anybody or being surrounded by other guests. But that is a valid separate concern I suppose

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        “I’m chill if strangers watch me sleep, I just don’t want to have to talk to them”…what a world

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          Says something about how awful some people are to interact with when anyone would rather the alternative, doesn’t it?

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            Well it says something about at least one of the people in the interaction. What it’s saying may be related to seratonin reuptake, but who am I to judge.

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          That it was explicitly allowed in the rental agreement for the purpose of collecting evidence of rulebreaking.

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              From your link:

              Historically, Airbnb allowed the use of indoor security cameras in common areas of listings, such as hallways and living rooms, as long as they were disclosed on the listing page before booking, clearly visible and were not located in spaces like sleeping areas and bathrooms.

              How do you read that and conclude “they explicitly allowed hidden cameras”?