Follow up video from MegaLag on the Honey scandal.

  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    8 hours ago

    I agree with most of it, but…

    If you (a business) want to give out coupons only “internally” (usually only to employees), allowing ANYONE to redeem them is just stupid. That system is designed to be exploited. IMO, this is either a bug or very bad application planning.


    And I have an idea for a “honey trap trap”… Whenever someone tries to redeem an “internal” coupon code in your shop, do this: If the person is employee, let them redeem it. If not, display “Attention! You have a dangerous spyware called Honey on your PC. Please uninstall it as soon as possible” with a link to this video…

      • Noja@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        8 hours ago

        The thumbnail is satire, the video is from the person who originally exposed the PayPal Honey scam.

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        Right? It tickles something in the back of my brain that just makes me angry. I can’t really explain it. By all accounts, it’s a good video, but I just can’t get over the thumbnail.

        • artyom@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          9 hours ago

          I mean it has Mr. Beast’s AI-generated face with that disturbing grimace he always has and those creepy fake veneers.

          • Zeddex@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 hours ago

            I was thinking exactly that. Like is that really his face or is this GenAI? It has to be GenAI right?

            • artyom@piefed.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              55 minutes ago

              Either that or just terrible Photoshop. Seems to be what everyone is doing these days is just cartoonish Photoshop with bright colors for some reason.

          • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 hours ago

            That’s Mr Beast? I’ve never watched anything of his, so I don’t know what he actually looks like. If this is one of his standard video thumbnails I now understand why people hate them/him so much!

            • cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 hours ago

              It resembles him, that is more or less what he looks like, but it feels incorrect to say an AI generated image is an image of him. Before AI, all his thumbnails included him making stupid faces like this (because it was very effective). Now he, and everyone else, just uses AI images resembling him making stupid faces (because it is unfortunately still somehow effective)

              The social media algorithms have turned most people’s brain attention pathways into mush. Sometimes people get a shovel and a mop and start trying to dig their way through properly, but a lot of times they don’t get very far before it starts seeming impossible to make useful progress. It’s usually easier to just swim in the slop.

            • artyom@piefed.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              9 hours ago

              I mean yes and no. It looks like a AI-generated image of Mr.Beast. Which is what he uses in all his thumbnails because he shills his AI image generation site.

      • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 hours ago

        I don’t watch any videos with these stupid faces and I hate when someone I follow suddenly starts doing it. ಠ_ಠ

    • k0e3@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      11 hours ago

      Yeah, I’m gonna have to hide this post because it’s really creeping me out. It’s not even his video right? No way I’m clicking on that.

  • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    11 hours ago

    Honey is a great example of corporate greed and enshittification turned to 11. It started as a simple free extension for collecting and trying discount coupons, and turned to a massive greedy scam with enough financial backing to start blackmailing webshops for profit.

  • audaxdreik@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Finally! I was getting concerned with how long this was taking but see it was well worth the wait.

    Somehow even worse than I ever imagined, and there’s still more to come.

    I know we’re all jaded nerds on this corner of the internet that are well aware of “if you’re not paying, etc. etc.” but there’s real value in investigations like this. Just look at how massively damaging and long-running this scam has been. The future of cyber security and cyberwarfare can’t just be fought on tech knowledge alone, there’s a huge social component to it and a “You should’ve known; I told you so” attitude won’t help.

    Spread the information and reach out to those closest to you to offer sincere and genuine help. Help your friends, family, and coworkers uninstall these extensions and all extensions like them. I feel like we’re really coming to a point where all these tech industries have overextended themselves to a point where they are immensely vulnerable. Capitalism demands line always go up and if we can even slightly slow or possibly reverse that trend it could pop the bubble for a lot of these corporations.

    • glimse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      12 hours ago

      I know we’re all jaded nerds on this corner of the internet that are well aware of “if you’re not paying, etc. etc.”

      Haven’t watched this video but IIRC the real scandal was that the extension would change the cookie to identify Honey as your referrer so the content creators whose referral you actually used didn’t get paid. No matter how jaded you are, you can see that as the theft it is

      • audaxdreik@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        11 hours ago

        It’s even worse than all that. The video is worth a watch if you have the time, he gets his hands on the leaked source code via accidental exposure on the Apple store, but then also covers other extensions that exhibit this same behavior as well as Microsoft Edge that just has it built into the browser. That’s right, even Microsoft is getting in on this by having their baseline browser without any extensions hijack the affiliate codes. It’s all so brazen …

        • glimse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          11 hours ago

          I definitely will, I liked the last one! I just wanted to clear up what the scandal was - it wasn’t something anyone could think creators should have seen coming

      • madjo@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        11 hours ago

        The new video showcases how Honey extorted small stores into becoming a paying affiliate with Honey in order to be able to keep certain discounts out of Honey’s database.

  • k0e3@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    I thought honey disappeared like two years ago after some scandal.

    • Duranie@leminal.space
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 hours ago

      I really had no intention to start my day with a video, but here I am. Was worth it though.