What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can’t do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it’s at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there’s no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can’t just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn’t make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I’m not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
Many AAA/high end games run at lower internal resolutions and/or frame rates on PS5/XSX. Otherwise PSSR would not have been a hyped marketing feature, they’d just run games at native 4k on PS5 Pro, but no, it needs PSSR.
I never said “every” or “none” on either side. But the heavy games often do not hit that bar or even get close to it. If all you need is a single example of a game hitting 4k120fps in order to consider it a 4k/120 system, well you can always run Quake 1 (with a source port) at that quality lol.
It’s just a bit of a stretch. I really only jumped in cause of the original comment about “4k/240” which has since been deleted anyways. Calling PS5 a 4k/120 system is reaching, but whatever. You can parrot their marketing material instead of assessing the real world results of the actual graphically demanding games.
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What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can’t do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it’s at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
Sorry meant 4k/120, which the ps5 does natively, doesn’t need to be pro.
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And there’s a host of games that are 4k/120, sorry to burst your reality bubble, consoles hit heavy now.
And if you want to talk down sampling, the deck does it worse.
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there’s no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can’t just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn’t make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I’m not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
Do you not know what the term “native” means?
Not all games use the checkerboard upsampling. If they do, they can’t be called “NATIVE” 4k.
I’m not looking at the output resolution, I’ve educated myself on what the console is capable of.
You haven’t.
Many AAA/high end games run at lower internal resolutions and/or frame rates on PS5/XSX. Otherwise PSSR would not have been a hyped marketing feature, they’d just run games at native 4k on PS5 Pro, but no, it needs PSSR.
PS5 Example: https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2023-alan-wake-2-on-playstation-5-remedy-raises-the-bar-for-visual-accomplishment-once-again
Below 1080p, even lower than 900p, that’s for the 60fps target performance mode, there is no 120 mode
So the average is below 60fps, because it’s not always hitting the target
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2023-avatar-frontiers-of-pandora-optimised-settings
I also see the PS5 at 57fps in that article
You realize that not every game on Steam is capable of 4k yeah…?
Of course there’s gonna be loads of examples that don’t meet the bar. That doesn’t mean the bar isn’t exceeded.
Yeesh, quit reading reviews and just google ps5 4k 120hz games and get a bloody list.
This shouldn’t be so difficult to figure out on your own.
I never said “every” or “none” on either side. But the heavy games often do not hit that bar or even get close to it. If all you need is a single example of a game hitting 4k120fps in order to consider it a 4k/120 system, well you can always run Quake 1 (with a source port) at that quality lol.
It’s just a bit of a stretch. I really only jumped in cause of the original comment about “4k/240” which has since been deleted anyways. Calling PS5 a 4k/120 system is reaching, but whatever. You can parrot their marketing material instead of assessing the real world results of the actual graphically demanding games.
This was prior to the RAM rising, but Valve stated that the Steam Frame would be cheaper than the Index which was at $999 USD.
That could change now after RAM pricing, but nothing has been said yet.