It’s easier to disable all the garbage than remove the garbage?

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    6 hours ago

    Nearly every Linux distro nowadays comes with some sort of “app store” for installing programs, the notion that the only way to install things is via a terminal is outdated. And I’m sure if you slapped a Calc shortcut on the desktop and renamed it Excel, your mom would be none the wiser.

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      6 hours ago

      It doesn’t matter if it has an “app store” or not if the software you need isn’t in it.

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          5 hours ago

          Don’t know what you’re talking about. I am not “stirring up” anything. Just acknowledging the facts that so many Linux users intentionally ignore. They can’t understand why more people don’t use it but then deny the reasons when they’re told.

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            5 hours ago

            The few reasons you’ve given haven’t been true for at least a decade, and you’ve declined to give any reasons in our thread. Be honest, when’s the last time you directly interacted with a Linux PC?

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              5 hours ago

              The few reasons you’ve given haven’t been true for at least a decade

              So like I said, I did give you reasons, you just didn’t like them.

              Be honest, when’s the last time you directly interacted with a Linux PC?

              I’m literally typing this on a Linux laptop right now. I haven’t used anything else in…3 years?

              Be honest, what’s the longest you’ve gone without opening the terminal?

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                4 hours ago

                I didn’t simply dislike your reasons. Your reasons are invalid, untrue in 2026.

                I’ve been using Linux at work for well over a decade, and at home for at least 5 years on my gaming PC. I have watched and experienced various Linux distros going from poor Windows replacements to very serviceable Windows replacements.

                On my home gaming PC, I have only run into two issues that I used a terminal to solve. And one of those I could have solved with a package manager because the solution was just to reinstall a few things that had gotten corrupted.

                Again, I recognize and accept that there are some things Linux still can’t do. But my whole point is that’s ok, because it can still function as a replacement for Windows without those things, for a huge chunk of the people still using Windows. It’s weird that a person that’s used a Linux laptop for the past 3 years doesn’t recognize that.

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                  3 hours ago

                  My reasons are not invalid or untrue, you just don’t like them.

                  I’ve been using Linux at work for well over a decade

                  Congratulations?

                  But my whole point is that’s ok, because it can still function as a replacement for Windows without those things

                  Depends entirely on what those things are and how badly you need them. For many they are essential applications. MS Office, Adobe products, hardware interfaces, etc. etc.

                  It’s weird that a person that’s used a Linux laptop for the past 3 years doesn’t recognize that.

                  I’ve used several distros on several devices, including a dedicated gaming PC (currently Cachy) and a dedicated server (Debian). It’s weird that you don’t recognize how complicated these things are to use for a normal person.

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                    3 hours ago

                    I turn it on, I click the program I need to use, I use the program.

                    If the program isn’t there, I open the software manager, I search for the program, click install, and open the program.

                    It’s really that easy.

                    You’re beginning to sound like a broken record now though, because the only things you’ve brought up are

                    • usability, which you have failed to substantiate, instead opting to just plug your ears and go “nuh uh” to anyone who disagrees or asks for examples
                    • availability of certain proprietary software/hardware interfaces, which is a non-issue either because an OS-independent cloud version of that software exists, an equivalent, non-proprietary version of that software exists, or is an edge case that affects a tiny fraction of users

                    I’d love to continue this discussion if you want to bring up anything else, but if this is all you have, I’m not gonna waste any more of my time with you.