Cet article est aussi disponible en français. This article contains quite a few technical terms, which I will explain these in the following paragraphs, those that are already familiar with these terms may skip to the next section. A basic understanding of linux and it’s desktop environments is assumed. Server side decorations (SSD) is the term for when when the application’s titlebar is drawn by the system and client side decorations (CSD) is the term for when the applications draws it’s own titlebar. KDE prefers the former, while GNOME prefers the latter. KDE and most other desktop environments supports both, while GNOME only supports CSD.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/57302675

an article explaining why GNOME should support SSD, but also arguing against the reasons often given for why they shouldn’t

If someone could repost this to r/GNOME I would appreciate it, since I don’t have a reddit account.

  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
    5513·
    5 days ago

    It’s funny how many GNOME people whine about the title bar wasting so much space when GNOME apps literally look like as if they’ve been made for touchscreen users. Also, what about the great black bar on the top of the system?

    We should honestly just leave GNOME behind and have them deal with it. We won’t move forward much with their child-like stubbornness and toxic community.

    • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3111·
      4 days ago

      GNOME looks like if Fisher-Price made a My First Linux Desktop baby toy, it just bothers me for some reason.

      • whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        61·
        4 days ago

        I’m using it since it came and actually got used to it directly, the search engine was efficient enough so I could skip the use of a mouse to open the few GUI I need

        I could probably use something lighter but doesn’t feel the need of, I have already so many unfinished projects that spending time on setting up something when this works without change seems useless.

        • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          41·
          4 days ago

          Oh absolutely no judgement on the people that use it, it’s just that’s the design language it reminds me of. I typically use KDE on bare metal Linux installs and xfce on my VMs, but like 99% of my Linux usage is in a full screen terminal running tmux so at the end of the day the desktop environment I’m running doesn’t matter at all.

          And yeah I completely get the aversion to changing a set up that works.

        • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          101·
          4 days ago

          Yeah bro, the reason Gnome is aesthetically displeasing to me is definitely because I lack empathy lol.

            • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              8·
              4 days ago

              lol ok, wow that’s a lot. You do realize that opinions are subjective right? Nowhere did I call gnome bad, I just said what its design language reminded me of and that I personally don’t like it. I’m happy that people like it. Im happy it exits and I’m happy that people have choices. I just don’t vibe with it at all. That’s fine, I don’t have to like the things you like. You don’t have to like the things I like. I’d bet money if I was slagging Windows 8 Metro you’d be totally fine with it though.

              I’m not really sure where the aggressiveness I’m feeling in your response is coming from, but I kind of doubt it’s driven solely by my opinions about a DE.

            • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
              41·
              4 days ago

              ^ the words of an empathetic human being? thats for you decide lemmy

              lemmy has decided

    • gregloscombe@lemmy.ml
      1·
      3 days ago

      So I love CSD, but I do agree that the padding, and rounded corners on every element is crap. There is dozens of studies into mistakes / productivity loss when you need to scroll. Programming, accounting, writing etc - everything benefits from more space.

      I remember switching from windows to linux for day to day, and finding myself f’king about way more in a debugger to get the info needed (eclipse in this case). Took screenshots in linux and windows… has lost about 20% of screen estate. Horrible.

      We’ve spent decades adding more monitors, and now its all been taken by touch screen garbage.

      The sad thing is, GTK and its css classes are probably the best potential for good UI, just the fat finger touch screen requirements has it borderline unusable for a professional desktop.