Having just finished getting an entire front end for my website, I disagree. A few years ago I would offshore this job to some third-world country devs. Now, AI can do the same thing, for cents, without having to wait for a few days for the initial results and another day or two for each revision needed
Please enlighten me. I am working on systems solving real-world issues, and now I can ship my solutions faster, with lower costs. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved except for the offshore employees that have to look for new gigs now
Edit: I would actually rather read a reply than just see you downvoting. The point is, what you call a “glorified text generating machine”, has actual use cases
Looks like others have come along and made my point for me while I slept. Except for calling out the dehumanizing language against the developers. They missed that one.
They weren’t my full time employees but one time gigs. I’ve worked with tons of freelancers over the years, I don’t have any special relationship with them. It’s was just a matter of whoever would offer the lowest price for the gig each time
Yeah, not seeing how their reasoning justifies anything. “I didn’t know them, they’re just a number” is exactly my point. That and calling them “third world devs” is Fox News “they took our jobs” style language
it’s not that it doesn’t have use cases. It burning the world down with it.
how much more water went down the drain cooling the requests you made? how about the electricity not going to local consumers but AI data centers.
all the computer components shortages…
that’s still before the fact you admitted you would have hired a human, and given them food on the table instead of a corporate giant to buy another mega yacht.
Regarding the electricity not going to local customers: it’s not my fault that your country does not have appropriate regulations. None of the data centers are located where I live anyways.
Regarding hiring a human: I 100% would hire a human if there was no AI, you’re right, I’m not trying to hide it. Sucks for them I guess but I don’t see a reason why should I keep using their services if I can get a cheaper and arguably better alternative now - I’m trying to make money, not run a charity supporting development of 3rd world countries with authoritarian regimes.
However, I am pretty sure that the companies which I’m paying are currently operating on a loss with my $3/month and free coding plans. They want to grow the customer base and I’ll just switch once they will start wanting to make a profit, like the Chinese ZAI just did this week, hiking up their prices by over 3x. They are operating on a loss with my <3$/month contribution and not buying another mega yacht yet getting further away from one.
What do you expect me to do? Spend more money when I can get better results with less money? I don’t understand your point, what am I supposed to be doing, according to you?
Why should you Proffitt so much off what used to be other people’s labour, and now plagiarism machine.
why do you expect me to sympathize with you.
I make good money on my own, and I do my best to NOT find the cheapest solution out there for my problems, and look for more ethical ways to spend my money. Because I care about my impact on others over my money. it’s having humanity.
I don’t know if it’s your fault honestly. It’s the system that makes you want to offshore your work to developing countries and not hire local employees. I get it. It’s cheaper. But when even independent developers start doing this we have reached post-late stage capitalism at this point
It’s behind a login page so I’m afraid you wouldn’t see much. Also, it was never supposed to be glorious (it was not before the LLMs neither), it’s a matter of just having some form of UI as a necessity. I would be hiring actual designers if it was supposed to be a landing page or sth where the looks matter, not stick with the AI
Yeah. It’s not hard to say a sentence about the problem space. Heck, in good faith I’ll say what I’ve been working on to start. I’m currently developing tools to help small communities teach their native language to younger generations as existing programs have stopped support for them.
LLMs are already shit. Going local is still burning the world just to run a glorified text production machine
Having just finished getting an entire front end for my website, I disagree. A few years ago I would offshore this job to some third-world country devs. Now, AI can do the same thing, for cents, without having to wait for a few days for the initial results and another day or two for each revision needed
The fact you see nothing wrong with anything you said really speaks volumes to the inhumanity inherent with using “AI”.
Please enlighten me. I am working on systems solving real-world issues, and now I can ship my solutions faster, with lower costs. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved except for the offshore employees that have to look for new gigs now
Edit: I would actually rather read a reply than just see you downvoting. The point is, what you call a “glorified text generating machine”, has actual use cases
Looks like others have come along and made my point for me while I slept. Except for calling out the dehumanizing language against the developers. They missed that one.
They weren’t my full time employees but one time gigs. I’ve worked with tons of freelancers over the years, I don’t have any special relationship with them. It’s was just a matter of whoever would offer the lowest price for the gig each time
so… that made it okay?
Yeah, not seeing how their reasoning justifies anything. “I didn’t know them, they’re just a number” is exactly my point. That and calling them “third world devs” is Fox News “they took our jobs” style language
you missed the plot a little.
it’s not that it doesn’t have use cases. It burning the world down with it.
how much more water went down the drain cooling the requests you made? how about the electricity not going to local consumers but AI data centers.
all the computer components shortages…
that’s still before the fact you admitted you would have hired a human, and given them food on the table instead of a corporate giant to buy another mega yacht.
Regarding the electricity not going to local customers: it’s not my fault that your country does not have appropriate regulations. None of the data centers are located where I live anyways.
Regarding hiring a human: I 100% would hire a human if there was no AI, you’re right, I’m not trying to hide it. Sucks for them I guess but I don’t see a reason why should I keep using their services if I can get a cheaper and arguably better alternative now - I’m trying to make money, not run a charity supporting development of 3rd world countries with authoritarian regimes.
However, I am pretty sure that the companies which I’m paying are currently operating on a loss with my $3/month and free coding plans. They want to grow the customer base and I’ll just switch once they will start wanting to make a profit, like the Chinese ZAI just did this week, hiking up their prices by over 3x. They are operating on a loss with my <3$/month contribution and not buying another mega yacht yet getting further away from one.
“well it doesn’t effect me directly other than my bottom line, so sucks for everyone else”
if all you have to say is that, have the day you deserve.
What do you expect me to do? Spend more money when I can get better results with less money? I don’t understand your point, what am I supposed to be doing, according to you?
yes, because hording money got us into this mess.
Why should you Proffitt so much off what used to be other people’s labour, and now plagiarism machine.
why do you expect me to sympathize with you.
I make good money on my own, and I do my best to NOT find the cheapest solution out there for my problems, and look for more ethical ways to spend my money. Because I care about my impact on others over my money. it’s having humanity.
I don’t know if it’s your fault honestly. It’s the system that makes you want to offshore your work to developing countries and not hire local employees. I get it. It’s cheaper. But when even independent developers start doing this we have reached post-late stage capitalism at this point
link to the website please, lets see this glorious beast
It’s behind a login page so I’m afraid you wouldn’t see much. Also, it was never supposed to be glorious (it was not before the LLMs neither), it’s a matter of just having some form of UI as a necessity. I would be hiring actual designers if it was supposed to be a landing page or sth where the looks matter, not stick with the AI
Yeah and I wonder what are those real world products solving real world issues he talks about.
Yeah. It’s not hard to say a sentence about the problem space. Heck, in good faith I’ll say what I’ve been working on to start. I’m currently developing tools to help small communities teach their native language to younger generations as existing programs have stopped support for them.
Edit: I’m mocking Lodespawn VieuxQueb tbc