• twinnie@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    57
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    22 hours ago

    I remember years ago reading about some test where participants lived in a house next to a phone mast. For the first week the phone mast was off, then the next week they turned it on. In the second week a bunch of people complained about getting sick and one person even had to leave. Then it turned out they’d never actually turned it on, I guess to prove that these people were idiots.

    • faerbit@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      13 hours ago

      I guess to prove that these people were idiots

      What an asinine statement under a comic about the placebo effect.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        9 hours ago

        People can be idiots for forming a firm belief that something can be bad for them when all evidence and expert opinion contradicts it.

        Anybody, idiot or otherwise can, due to the nocebo effect, trully feel bad due to nothing else than a strongly held belif that something will make them feel bad.

        Those are two separate things.

        There aren’t indications of idiocy from feeling actual effects due to nothing else than a placebo or nocebo effect from a strongly held belief, whilst there can be idiocy in the way one gains a belief so strong was that it actually triggers one of those effects.

        The example given by the previous poster does seem to fit a situation of people who are indeed idiots not because of how they feel but because of how they came to believe they would be feeling like that in a certain situation.