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For what. Thats a lot of effort for a small userbase. And most importantly a userbase that doesn’t see Google ads. Custom hardware is expensive and doesn’t provide much additional data for most users and provides unprofitable data for degoogled phones.
Google doesnt spy on us just because they are evil. They spy on us to sell more expensive targeted ads.
Yeah I think you just have to not let perfect be the enemy of good, as they say. I’m sure they still get something out of the mess of VPN’d sandboxed apps and addy.io burner email logins that make up my phone, but at least I can make things as difficult as possible for them.
I think you might be right, but it’s a little silly to think Google would only install spyware on a tiny fraction of their phones that they somehow had a premonition that GrapheneOS would be installed on.
What they’re saying is that the GOS user base is the difference. The vast majority of users can be spied upon with software alone, no need for hardware. So it’s not worth the effort for so little payoff.
Well, the alternative ROM scene has been active as long as Android has, so I kinda doubt Google hasn’t thought about whether their software is actually soft and squishy like the name implies, and easy to remove or modify.
Do you work for Google? It’s weird to see someone valiantly defending them, especially given their ad-driven surveillance business model. Google removed “Don’t be evil” from their code of conduct in 2018 lol. If so I’d expect you to be better educated about their history of “thinking about whether their software is soft and squishy” (lol) like the 2018 data exposure that affected 52 million users. Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?
For what. Thats a lot of effort for a small userbase. And most importantly a userbase that doesn’t see Google ads. Custom hardware is expensive and doesn’t provide much additional data for most users and provides unprofitable data for degoogled phones.
Google doesnt spy on us just because they are evil. They spy on us to sell more expensive targeted ads.
Yeah I think you just have to not let perfect be the enemy of good, as they say. I’m sure they still get something out of the mess of VPN’d sandboxed apps and addy.io burner email logins that make up my phone, but at least I can make things as difficult as possible for them.
The user base of Pixel phones is small? What?
It’s got the lowest worldwide vendor market share. Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?
https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile
^ Google is the lowest one on that list. Do you regularly just make stuff up?
I think they meant the userbase of grapheneos.
I think you might be right, but it’s a little silly to think Google would only install spyware on a tiny fraction of their phones that they somehow had a premonition that GrapheneOS would be installed on.
What they’re saying is that the GOS user base is the difference. The vast majority of users can be spied upon with software alone, no need for hardware. So it’s not worth the effort for so little payoff.
Well, the alternative ROM scene has been active as long as Android has, so I kinda doubt Google hasn’t thought about whether their software is actually soft and squishy like the name implies, and easy to remove or modify.
Do you work for Google? It’s weird to see someone valiantly defending them, especially given their ad-driven surveillance business model. Google removed “Don’t be evil” from their code of conduct in 2018 lol. If so I’d expect you to be better educated about their history of “thinking about whether their software is soft and squishy” (lol) like the 2018 data exposure that affected 52 million users. Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?
The user base of pixel phones that have graphene on them.