• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    10 hours ago

    The fact that you’ve gotten away with it is not proof that it’s unnecessary. The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is. These systems save lives, no question about it.

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        5 hours ago

        LOL who said anything about ethics? This is an unbelievably stupid strawman.

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          indeed, you said this:

          The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is.

          but their point was laws are not always made with good intentions and safety in mind. that’s not to say TPMS is required for secret surveillance, but that there being a law for it does not immediately mean there’s good purpose for that law.

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              1 hour ago

              yes it has, when a law not only just does not have good purpose, but even malicious, but even when the added safety is not outweighed by the bad things it does

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              2 hours ago

              Do you believe law and ethics are separable? Does your “these systems save lives” not speak to the very reasoning employed to codify an ethical position into the law of the land?

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      10 hours ago

      lots of things are legally mandated without any good evidence.

      Lots of things legally mandated in the past are now unconscionable or illegal now.