• Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Unions are great, not the one I am in but they are great.

    I wish they were held to account better.

    Our union has allowed for the hollowing out of the job and conditions and seen a massive staff cut over the years and still wont act in the workers favour.

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      4 hours ago

      They dont deserve it sometimes, I got a bigger raise cutting them out in January than they secured me.

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        2 hours ago

        I don’t see how those are mutually exclusive. Where I live the guaranteed raises are negotiated by the work seller and the work buyer unions, but we still have individual salary discussions (which can be with or without union support, of course) where you can negotiate further raises. I’ve never heard of unions getting a cut from one’s raise before.

        Unions aren’t supposed to be a they, they’re supposed to be an us. They’re workers joining together to be able to negotiate with buyers of work on more equal footing about everything that pertains to the work life. You might be able to get better deals individually for yourself, but you’ll never be able to do things like negotiate down to a 4 day work-week for your entire company, or everyone in your sector by yourself. That’s the work of unions.

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          16 minutes ago

          Nah they are a them. They used to be an us but they are no longer related to the workers.

          The company only enagages one union, the union chooses what is brought forward and what isnt, they negotiate wage increases and the company doesnt discuss wages outside of the union negotiations. Recently they halted union discussions because they have wittled them down to nothing.

          My wage increase was worth less than what I saved by leaving the union.

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      19 hours ago

      I wish managers could be in a union. But after a certain point you’re expected to side with the company no matter what.

      • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 hours ago

        That’s not true, you can still join a union, and you can always make a choice to disagree with your overlords

        I’ll have to tell my manager that he’s going to have to leave the Tech Workers Union, damn, and he was enjoying being a member so much.

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          3 hours ago

          Not really. I became a manager to help make things better for the front line workers. Problem is there is only so much within my sphere of control until I get up high enough. More than once I’ve been scolded for siding with the workers but that hasn’t changed who I am.