• otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    It’s the taking of money for both and only doing one that’s the issue, friend. Breathe.

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      8 hours ago

      Do they not get paid by advertisers per view? Wouldn’t they only ever get paid for either premium or ads for a user, never both?

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        6 hours ago

        Ad views aren’t sold individually, though views’re certainly involved as a metric. These fucks will take all the money they can, every time, and for as long as they can get away with it.

        Your “never” there is endearingly naive, no offense, and I do hope that you’re not at all surprised the next time you read/hear about any/every tech giant emphatically shitting on everyone & everything for profit, but getting <1% TR fines when (not “if”) they get caught and taken to court. 🥲🙇🏼‍♂️

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          Ad impressions absolutely are tracked. You pay per impression or click IIRC (per 1000 impressions, really - they’re pretty cheap).

          Advertisers on YouTube include some huge companies. They’d tear Alphabet a new anus if they were being short changed on their impressions and found out.

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            1 hour ago

            Yes, and I didn’t argue that specific point, but you missed the content in the hurry to downvote, friend. I’m not sure what inside connect you have, or skin in the game, but I’m not keen on fishing about in constipated arguments w/ anons, thanks. Have fun!

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      5 hours ago

      But they’re only getting paid by advertisers for actual ad views, so premium users don’t make them any money from advertising.

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        1 hour ago

        And, you’re assuming that YT isn’t clever enough to cover all the bases? They’re taking money from every side they can think of, and they know damn well that openly talking about ad-blocking inherently risks introducing the concept to new consumers, much less normalizing the whole concept.

        YT is clearly juuust fine with money from pretty much anywhere, and I certainly have no delusions that any “premium” service is only temporarily off-limits from that greed. Not just YT’s, either. Netflix & Amazon’ve already done exactly that and completely gotten away with it —to the mildest of whines from the consumer base. 🙄🤮🤷🏽‍♂️

        It’s all smoke & mirrors, and we each have a choice to believe their bullshit or not. You like steak or clarity?