If the name might not be familiar to you, you may recognize his face… He’s the “Ex-CIA” guy from YouTube… Do you think he’s credible and how much of his words are true? To what extent is he trustable?

  • DJ Putler@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    He sucks. First of all nobody is “ex-CIA” and antiimperialist media needs to get that through their heads. He lied about being present at the torture of Abu Zubaydah. He was working at places that “tortured some folks”, just not, you know, his main claim to fame. A good rubric to apply to whistleblowers is do they condemn the organization, disavow its personnel, cut all ties with it, and ultimately is their critique structural, merely careerist, or is it in fact a controlled self-critique by the org. Johncharlie Kirkiakou is kind of a codifying example of the shitty whistleblower, he is always moaning about how the CIA had never tortured anyone before the Bush administration and it was a Great Shame on the good Amerikan people etc, blow it out your ass “John”!!! They wrote manuals on that shit in the 50s. Fuck that guy read about the Office of Strategic Services, its postwar collaboration with Nazis, and the inextricable links between the CIA (emphasis on central), other first world intelligence agencies, fascist orgs, and private banking.

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      17 hours ago

      Also Jared Leto’s high school teacher for american government & history classes.

      https://xcancel.com/0ddette/status/2041362458351108213?s=20

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        13 hours ago

        WHAT? I did not even need to go more insane about this. Also that account has weird personal lore (nevermind)

    • very_well_lost@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      Kiriakou has serious “that happened” energy.

      I’m not really qualified to guess how much of what he says is bullshit, and I’m sure you inevitably gain some stories being a CIA station chief or whatever, but the guy has a story about literally everything ever. He’s been everywhere, he’s met everyone, he knows everything about everything… and it really strains disbelief.

      The guy obviously loves telling stories (and I’d even go so far as to say he’s great at it), but I’ve gotta imagine that the vast majority of it is seriously embellished if not outright bullshit — especially when so much of what he says seems designed to paint him favorably.

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        5 hours ago

        Also if he was a real whistleblower I’m sure he’d have had a car accident or tragic mugging gone wrong or suicide by now.

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        13 hours ago

        I bet he tells stories off-camera about how people eat up the psyops he runs without even really thinking deeply about blatantly ridiculous stories