There are so many speech restrictions and humans rights violations in China that scare the hell out of me, but then I see rulings like this and their progress on robotics and tech and I think “Well, they are doing something right…” I hope one day there is more free speech for people in China who deserve to be able to say what they want.
It’s a great ruling because companies that would normally favor efficiency and profit increases are in a better position to take these existing workers and utilize them in different ways than just have everyone fired en masse and then somehow the market will sort it out. Even under classical economic theories, governments are supposed to regulate externalities and AI displacing workers too rapidly could be considered a type of externality.
It’s almost as if the speech restrictions and human rights violations are grossly exaggerated or entirely misreported by companies that are exclusively funded by the US intelligence community. . .
Don’t get me wrong, some still do exist (especially on the company side of things). Since, you know, it’s a country consisting of 1/7th of humanity; but equally it’s pretty silly to think 1/7th of humanity is too stupid to do anything about a single supposedly hyper repressive government that allegedly doesn’t let them speak against it.
You mean like how the West mashes people skulls in for holding a banner against genocide?
China has better worker’s policies than America.
This one policy is better in this extremely superficial description.
Neither country has workers rights on par with Europe for example.
Neither country has workers rights on par with Europe for example.
For now. Now watch us fuck it all up.
Valid.
Europe has executed CEO’s for violating their worker’s human rights?
Did you even hear about America’s Apple’s Foxconn factory in China where the factory has nets on the windows to stop the frequent ‘inconvenient’ problem of cheap labor workers attempts of window jump suicides, for example? Co-operative structure (worker-owned) companies have more likelihood to have more human policies to, uh, themselves, than ponzi scheme corporations. Despite a fancy socialist (‘communist’) sounding title of government structure, Russia and China both took International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans, with their conditions of worker rights suffocation policies and market concentration monopolization policies. America’s and China’s feudalist monopolist billionaires have a lot more proximity of ideology than either of their propaganda machines has acknowledged so far.
Yeah, I know about all of that, and they still have a better working environment than Americans.
As China has prospered, they have managed to reduce most poverty in their nation. As we have prospered under MAGA, Americans’ quality of life is decreasing, and the slide is increasing. China is going the right way, we are definitely going the wrong way.
I’m not saying that China doesn’t have issues, but they are still committed to the betterment of their country’s future, while American leaders are ONLY concerned with exploiting our country and it’s people to the absolute maximum degree. They don’t want to leave one illegal penny on the table.
I don’t want to be China, but I don’t want to be MAGAMERICA either.
They’re a worker’s republic, of course they do.
It just means they have to write “mistakes” or “performance issues” on the paperwork instead of “replaced by robots”
You massively underestimate the efficiency of Chinese social policies.
996 is not legal either and yet many companies did that. I’m sure many still do, it’s a hypercapitalist country just like the US.
I would kill to live in a country like China that optimizes its economy for use value over exchange value.
Honey, I used to live there, and I hate to burst your bubble, but there’s a huge HUGE difference between what China says and does.
As someone currently living there, I don’t believe you.
I’ve heard from many other Chinese people who say the opposite, so I’m gonna go ahead and press X to doubt.
Edit: I also don’t really care what someone with enough resources to emigrate has to say. I’m more concerned with ordinary workers, who have a 90%+ approval rating of the CCP.
I agree with everything you posted except I have to also press X to doubt on your claim of 90%+ approval ratings amongst ordinary workers. You can’t get 90 percent of people to agree on anything else in the world, except the CCP? It just doesn’t compute as a real number for me I guess. But I’d love to be proven wrong.
Here’s an article from the Harvard Gazette talking about the surveys. The approval rating was 95.5% and notably, Harvard did not dispute the accuracy of the findings or have issue with the methodology of the survey.
Also, don’t patronize me. It’s rude.
Patronizing and completely unsubstantiated!
The great leap sideways.
Step 1: give unrealistic KPI, cited performance increase due to AI Step 2: put employee into PIP Step 3: fire employee due to performance Step 4: do stock buyback because you have extra budget from firing employees
I’m not sure about step 4. I mean, China is pretty strict with those kinds of things.
Step 5: hire employee back as part of expansion plan and because AI did it poorly.
Just to save your eyes from being assaulted (had to turn off styling):
Thank you for your service. I almost got cancer by looking at the website.
How the hell does an article that we can’t even read get so many upvotes.
Stuff like this really shakes my belief in the voting system.
Headline goes brrrrrr… I guess?
My take as well.
Was recently “assaulted” by a load of China-stans. So I assume this is similar pro-china (neutral about it) or at least anti-US (positive about that) community upvoting it.Yeah, I certainly don’t wanna just blindly promote china, they do a lot of things I find abhorrent, but it can’t be denied that they are so much better than the US in a number of areas.
Totally in agreement.
Because hate for AI is so blind that you can post anything and people will immediately fall for it.
People only read the title, not the article
You can’t require reading the article before someone vote/comment, but what if communities could enable “ponder voting” where users can only vote 30 seconds after viewing the post? This would prevent people from scrolling by from voting, but people who at least slightly skim the article first won’t be affected.
Probably not viably due to it having to be supported by all platforms, but just a thought.
EDIT: It could work by returning a JWT with a post ID and time when fetching the post and having the vote endpoint support providing it. Although, I can also see it being a bit annoying and being trivially bypassed by adding some code to the client.
It’s one of those subscription blocks you can get around by selecting reading mode in Firefox.
I’m not sure if it works for other browsers but I was able to read the article.
I’m not going to hand my money to that paywall on such an overstimulating website riddled with AI.
China (its court, anyways) is a civil law jurisdiction (i.e. precedent doesn’t exist too much) so I’m curious what law’s letter is being applied here.
Is this a China propaganda site? Sure reads like it is.
Strange to see China of all places to be societal ahead of everyone else.
Not really to be honest. They’re an authoritarian regime, but they do a lot of social policies. It’s a weird mix but not a new one.
Turns out when you run a government like a corporation properly, you can think about long-term profits instead of only next quarter. It isn’t fully-automated luxury gay space communism, but it’s a hell of a lot better than neoliberalism.
Turns out when you run a government like a corporation properly
This is not what China has done though…
Stop trying to launder this “run the government like a corporation” garbage
In the sense that they’re maximizing (tax) revenue by investing in infrastructure, maintaining a strict hierarchy, and so on, not the Reaganite destroying it and selling it off for parts.
It is indeed a weird mix in China, but I had not expected this one. Its a law that could be useful everywhere, even though it is hard to prove.
It’s not nearly as authoritarian as people like to claim. Chinese citizens hold tens of thousands of protests each year against a wide variety of topics, and the government is legally required to respond to them. As a consequence, the Chinese government is orders of magnitude more responsive to local corruption or abuses of power than almost any western country.
It absolutely is. Have a look at the definition of authoritarianism, China checks all the boxes.
So does the US at this point.
Not fully yet, but heading there head first, yep
Literally all governments are definitionally authoritarian, it’s a stupid criticism
No, it isn’t.
Of all place? Have you been living under a rock?
I don’t need a fuckton of money to conquer the world, I have ideas. Not that I would.
I wonder how this works…
One has to wonder if they do this to influence USA. I mean it’s china, they do whatever they want to people.
Believe it or not, but everything is not about the US. Sometimes countries decide on policies without a single thought as to what the US thinks about it
I’m far from a China cheerleader, but they lifted billions of people out of abject poverty over the course of like 20 years.
Or do you think that was also somehow about the US?
lol influence us to do what? Hate AI and capitalism? Good.
*they do whatever the people want
Can’t say anything good about China without droves of butthurt westerners showing up to regurgitate outdated state department talking points and be weird & racist
