Education Shouldn't Be Held for Ransom
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Google told K-12 schools they could turn off AI, but only if they gave up search too. That isn’t integration. It’s holding education for ransom.
  • Forsho@sh.itjust.works
    112·
    6 hours ago

    Yeah that is an AD for a corporate with an overpriced services.

    I find it sad that privacy which is a fucking human right is being commercialized, packaged and resold as an overpriced commodity by corporations like kagi, proton or whatever coming next in line.

    In reality this makes “privacy” a product only rich westerners of the world can afford, while other poor global south humans can fuck off

    • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
      82·
      4 hours ago

      Huh? How exactly do you package privacy? It’s something you can lose, but not something you can buy.

      Kagi is selling search, same as Google. The difference is that you can only pay in dollars, not data.

      I agree it’s overpriced, but this is where we are. The actual market for genuine web services is atrophied after 30 years of neckbeards naively insisting that web services should be free. Search should cost $5/year by now. But oh well, 30 years too late is better than never.

      • non_burglar@lemmy.world
        71·
        3 hours ago

        30 years of neckbeards naively insisting that web services should be free.

        Why. You were off to a great start.

        I’m one of those neckbeards and web services should be free, as in a social service. So should potable drinking water.

        Paying for a social service with money voluntarily or with your own data is not a really a choice between providers, it’s an admission that we should, in fact, all remain essentially cattle.

        • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
          21·
          3 hours ago

          I too was one of those neckbeards, so I use the term with love. :)

          I certainly think we should voluntarily create some crowd-funded free-to-use services like the fediverse. But we can’t pretend that commerce doesn’t exist.

          People are going to try to make money by hosting stuff online and enticing people to go there and use it. I would prefer if those people made money by charging admission instead of by collecting and selling data.

      • Forsho@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        2 hours ago

        I am talking about privacy, i was not talking about search engine (indexing websites text and pulling results).

        You are missing the point completely here, privacy should not be a debatable subject, laws should been in place to fully protect humans from data markets, governments should never allowed this situation (where google sells your information) to exist.

        • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
          2·
          1 hour ago

          I agree with your policy position. The three options should be:

          1. Crowd-funded, free to use, privacy preserving
          2. Paid, privacy preserving
          3. Self-hosted

          A fourth “free to use, subsidized through data collection” option shouldn’t even be legal.

          But we’re not there yet. And in order to get there, we need companies like Kagi to populate the second category so that when politicians say “but how will they make money if they can’t sell data?” we have examples to point to.