I can’t blame him. I recently tried to compile a rust app from github. I did not realize that cargo was pulling a GIGABYTE of data on my bandwidth-restricted connection until it was done. Then it wouldn’t compile due to version mismatch. So I tried to update the rust version and that started throwing errors. The last thing I am doing is wasting my time troubleshooting such a crappy toolchain. If I have to play inspector gadget just to install the compiler and libraries to compile a small program, you can forget it. Cargo is a monstrosity and it is NOT a good toolchain if you value time and simplicity. I would much rather the maintainer offer binaries for download rather than requiring me to git clone, apt install, realize the deps aren’t in the apt repo, hunt down and compile the deps, run make, then troubleshoot forever and a day before I can even do make install. Just give me a binary with everything built in. Kthxbye.
What I’m hearing is you’d rather that the developer used their time to produce binaries so you don’t need to spend your own time.
The problem with open source is that people expect a lot time and effort to go into things like bug fixes, documentation and support, when often the devs start out making something to scratch a personal itch. They then share it for the benefit of others, and it can be a slippery slope where you can end up with a second job, except you don’t get paid or even thanked.
Yeah sure, I’ll compile it in my OS. For any other OS, either I’m not knowledgeable about the tools available, and many of them that I am not going to spend money to acquire. If providing the binary a developer compiles for themselves would solve it, we’d not have that problem at all.
I specifically hate when program or libraries are only in compiled form, and then I get an error messages talking about an absolute path it has with some usernames I’ve never seen before, and no way to correct it as there’s no code. Turns out when people pass compiled versions to the OS they don’t use themselves they don’t encounter the errors and think it works fine.
Some dude was ranting somewhere recently about GitHub and “I just want the damn exe, not a bunch of stupid code”. It became a bit of a meme.
@bassomitron@lemmy.world
I can’t blame him. I recently tried to compile a rust app from github. I did not realize that cargo was pulling a GIGABYTE of data on my bandwidth-restricted connection until it was done. Then it wouldn’t compile due to version mismatch. So I tried to update the rust version and that started throwing errors. The last thing I am doing is wasting my time troubleshooting such a crappy toolchain. If I have to play inspector gadget just to install the compiler and libraries to compile a small program, you can forget it. Cargo is a monstrosity and it is NOT a good toolchain if you value time and simplicity. I would much rather the maintainer offer binaries for download rather than requiring me to git clone, apt install, realize the deps aren’t in the apt repo, hunt down and compile the deps, run make, then troubleshoot forever and a day before I can even do make install. Just give me a binary with everything built in. Kthxbye.
We all get to that point but we don’t go full meme. You never go full meme.
What I’m hearing is you’d rather that the developer used their time to produce binaries so you don’t need to spend your own time.
The problem with open source is that people expect a lot time and effort to go into things like bug fixes, documentation and support, when often the devs start out making something to scratch a personal itch. They then share it for the benefit of others, and it can be a slippery slope where you can end up with a second job, except you don’t get paid or even thanked.
Open source burnout is a big problem.
Who better to compile a binary than the person that wrote the code?
Yeah sure, I’ll compile it in my OS. For any other OS, either I’m not knowledgeable about the tools available, and many of them that I am not going to spend money to acquire. If providing the binary a developer compiles for themselves would solve it, we’d not have that problem at all.
I specifically hate when program or libraries are only in compiled form, and then I get an error messages talking about an absolute path it has with some usernames I’ve never seen before, and no way to correct it as there’s no code. Turns out when people pass compiled versions to the OS they don’t use themselves they don’t encounter the errors and think it works fine.