• FictionalCrow@yiffit.net
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    7 months ago

    While funny. This has always been a rather retarded take. Semantics. I for one value a biosphere capable of supporting humans > “the people”

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      7 months ago

      I don’t think it’s “prioritise humans over the planet” but more “we should be able to look after one another as a base level of being human. If we can’t figure that out how the hell can we focus on bigger things like the planet”. Not saying what we should and shouldn’t do but just throwing shade at our ability.

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        7 months ago

        Honestly at this point I’d accept eco fascism. Arguing about “taking care of each other” while life support is failing and we enter triage levels of failure is inane

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          7 months ago

          the problem there is it requires a power base to enforce - and all the power bases seemed determined to drive off the cliff (some are tapping the brakes but the rest are full throttle and rolling coal for lulz) at one speed or another - and a military industrial complex large enough to be strategically effective would be (like the US army) one of the largest polluters in the world.

          I want something to change, I just don’t see ecofascism ( a really bad term btw ) as a possible avenue.

          Victor Von Doom levels of resources/soverign agency might be able to. I think us humans are going to be a sad end note in some other species’ extraterrestrial archeology, after so many of them run into our radio and other emissions.

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        7 months ago

        Since “general learning disability” and “Intellectual disability” is no longer called “retardation” does it matter?

        I doubt anyone that says “retard” (or any variation) are actually referring in any way to ID and more to its original meaning of slow or stupid. I personally see no problem with calling people stupid (if warranted obviously).

        You obviously shouldn’t call people with ID “retards” though. But imo that’s something entirely different.

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          7 months ago

          I wonder if they get as offended when people use other outdated medical terms like idiot and imbecile.

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            7 months ago

            I’m hoping Cretin makes a comeback, it’s got a certain feel I just think should be applied more often.

            FAS baby could be used for offensive reasons but I also think it’s a pretty accurate description of tons of folks in the public sphere who very much aren’t helping our society writ large.

            I’m probably going to hell for this post. I’m not a good person.

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    7 months ago

    Oh, Carlin. On one hand I wish you were still here, but in the other hand I’d hate to hear what you thought if what we’ve become.

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      6 months ago

      Like with most things in comedy, you will need to hear his timing, context, and the cadence of his voice. You can still not think it is funny, but there clearly was a joke being told.

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    7 months ago

    Try asking those who believe Man has a significant effect on global warming a simple question. Tell me exactly and specifically what changes you propose. And then tell me exactly and specifically what results we will see and in what time period due solely to those changes. File this under makes you feel good about yourself but accomplishes nothing but higher energy prices.

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      6 months ago

      Stopping people like you from using oxygen would be my first proposed measure :)

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        When they cannot debate with facts they threaten those who dare disagree with them

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          Who’s “they”, Mikey? Be clear, Mikey.

          Your ilk doesn’t deserve a chance at discourse, because you don’t engage in honest discussion.

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            Honest discussion means… you have to totally agree with my position. They are incapable of having a debate of facts and proven outcomes. You would think that if a person firmly believed in a policy that they would be glad to prove those who disagree wrong with facts.

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      If our species cared about our species’ future, we would live with whatever energy generation our only habitat could environmentally tolerate/sustain, and we clearly wouldn’t have bred to the point that the planet is pushing back. Instead we STILL demand growth/metastasis. “growth or die!” Oh the delicious gallows irony. Homeostasis should have been our species’ business, but that ship has sailed.

      Humans are so self-important that we don’t even seem to care about how fragile our situation is, and we all know at some level we’re going to be our own end.

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        I’ve been calling it human exceptionalism. If we found an organism that drives 150 other species extinct a day we would do our best to eradicate it permanently, but it’s us so we ignore it.

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      7 months ago

      No more children allowed. The problem will solve itself in a hundred years and the earth can begin its millions-of-years recovery process.