• melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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    1 day ago

    Look I will be clear to you. You can not have a free and open internet and governments unable to misuse their power to shutdown websites, information whenever they please. And at the same time regulate the internet “to protect the children”. You can’t have both at the same time.

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      4 hours ago

      Well this kind of regulation needs to be democratically. So there need to be independent institutions who regulate. The Same way like the law, police and politics is independent from each other.

      If we keep the Internet “free” this means the Internet will be controlled by corporations like meta, Google and tiktok and thus by undemocratic billionaires. And also networks like these Russian fake news propaganda will control the narrative and so indirectly control our society.

      I agree with you that regulating the Internet and thus the media need to be balanced against freedom. But if we do not regulate the internet than democracy is doomed.

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      10 hours ago

      It’s not the 90s; we don’t have a free and open internet anymore.

      The vast majority of the web is run by a handful of corporations. Something needs to be done, and I think that preventing children from getting access to websites owned by evil companies like Google/Alphabet, Elon Musk, and Meta/Facebook is a good start.

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      1 day ago

      The internet is firmly in the grasp of mega corporations. There is no free internet anymore. This shit needs to be regulated.

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        17 hours ago

        I run my own service all hosted on my own infrastructure. And fully independent from other big corps. No cloud. No cloudflare etc.

        More people should do that, but do not tell me to just give up and hand me over, and fully regulate the internet. Then we are doomed for sure.

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          16 hours ago

          Its not really something kids can do though. The overwhelming majority of parents neither. Hell, I consider myself somewhat tech savvy, but I’m just starting on that journey.

          I have no idea what a good regulation might look like, but just letting techbros do whatever they want is not an option.

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          A tiny niche that’s only accessible to people who know how the internet works. Ask your regular Joe if they’ve even ever heard of the Fediverse. Kids will flock to the easiest accessible and largest platforms. Not Lemmy. And even Lemmy would be toxic for kids.

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        This is really good point. The internet has been completely taken over by American oligarch gangs, on an outcome basis it’s not too far from internet censorship China (just implemented via alternative means).