With the following animal characteristics: brain, heart, blood, vessels, sexual organs, muscles, cells, dopamine, water, illness, emotions… does that mean that every human being is actually something and not someone? 🤔
What about babies? They do not have basic language and structural cognition, do not understand basic human emotions, cry out loud for just beeing alive… are they something? Or someone?
I guess it’s just a shift of perspective before you actually come to conclusion that Animals are living beeings and sometimes way more “human” than some humanoid i have encountered in my life ^^.
Only some people are something - like Jews during WW2. We call living creatures including people “things”, because then it feels more ok to kill them. It lowers the empathy.
By treating animals like people, do you mean respecting them and not killing them or letting them work as senators?
IMO treating animals like things is definitely wrong, in the same way treating people like things is. Neither of them is a thing, all us animals are alive.
bacteria, fungus, plants, protozoa, and (arguably) viruses are all alive, too. bed bugs. rattlesnakes. being alive isn’t actually that special, nor a reason, in itself, to refrain from eating or killing that thing.
I agree fully. If you were not allowed to eat other life, you would be left with licking salt. But that’s not what I meant. What I meant was people use the “thing” label to make it easier to drop empathy - to do shitty things to both humans and other animals.
With the following animal characteristics: brain, heart, blood, vessels, sexual organs, muscles, cells, dopamine, water, illness, emotions… does that mean that every human being is actually something and not someone? 🤔
What about babies? They do not have basic language and structural cognition, do not understand basic human emotions, cry out loud for just beeing alive… are they something? Or someone?
I guess it’s just a shift of perspective before you actually come to conclusion that Animals are living beeings and sometimes way more “human” than some humanoid i have encountered in my life ^^.
no, and this makes no sense
Only some people are something - like Jews during WW2. We call living creatures including people “things”, because then it feels more ok to kill them. It lowers the empathy.
they weren’t things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.
and treating animals like people is also wrong.
By treating animals like people, do you mean respecting them and not killing them or letting them work as senators?
IMO treating animals like things is definitely wrong, in the same way treating people like things is. Neither of them is a thing, all us animals are alive.
you shouldn’t treat animals like smartphones, either. you treat different things differently.
I think recognizing what is alive and what is not is a question of basic science education. I agree animals shouldn’t be treated as smartphones.
bacteria, fungus, plants, protozoa, and (arguably) viruses are all alive, too. bed bugs. rattlesnakes. being alive isn’t actually that special, nor a reason, in itself, to refrain from eating or killing that thing.
I agree fully. If you were not allowed to eat other life, you would be left with licking salt. But that’s not what I meant. What I meant was people use the “thing” label to make it easier to drop empathy - to do shitty things to both humans and other animals.