• pneumatron@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    Health insurance, ISP, Oil Cos, and utilities should also be nationalized. The US is a weird place where everything is a business. A shithole capitalist hellscape

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      19 hours ago

      Those are different to taking over private companies. The government should, imo, compete against private enterprise in those areas, in turn bringing prices down and making it better for the taxpayers.

      NASA is government owned. Look at the state of it. Do you think the government taking over SpaceX would really be a good thing?

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        9 hours ago

        You think the state of NASA isn’t caused by privately funded politicians?

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            5 hours ago

            No, the private funding of politicians, which nowhere in the world happens as thoroughly or blatantly as in the US, is another issue to solve. It’s companies pushing for privatization of services that they sabotage first to show that the government doesn’t do well with them. It’s like the postal service headed by that Trump appointee that was a big cheese in a transport firma. I forgot his name.

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      19 hours ago

      Tankies live in alternate reality where they think that nationalization is extremely common and is a magical solution to all of societies problems… even though this view is entirely delusional.

      For example, only 3 countries have nationalized the entire ISP industry, and those are Cuba, Turkmenistan, and North Korea. All three of which are horrid tyrannical dictatorships with horrible internet. We should NOT be like them. Even when it comes to health insurance, except for 3 countries I just mentioned, every single country allows private health insurance, even if their system is public. Clearly nationalization is not what you think it is.

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        13 hours ago

        I hate tankies, but not as much as I hate Nazis. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We’re losing 100 years of social advancement. But here you are telling us to protect the fucking corporations that are sucking them up.

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          5 hours ago

          This is a false dichotomy. We don’t have to accept either Nazis Marxists. Fuck them both, there other options out that are much better.

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        19 hours ago

        Tankie your ass. You don’t have to have a shitty dictatorship to have nationalized services. Clearly you don’t know as much as you think you do.

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          18 hours ago

          Most countries have public options for services and private alternatives as either competitors, backups, or complimentary pieces. It’s very rare for countries to completely nationalize sectors, and it’s especially rare for them to national that many sectors.

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              5 hours ago

              My point is that this can be and is often done without nationalizing entire sectors of the economy

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              13 hours ago

              Allowing government to compete with business creates better outcomes in both. There is certainly something to be said about a more involved government. It’s really silly to allow big business or the government to have a monopoly on critical services.

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        15 hours ago

        LOL “We should NOT be like them.”
        And then starts talking about health insurance. What health insurance?
        You can only dream of being like Cuba.
        But your shithole country keeps licking the boots and are good little servants of the oligarch ruling class.
        And that’s great, you deserve all you get, all you do is comlain and cry about it online anyway.

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          5 hours ago

          Cuba is a shithole by every definition of the word. The only people in the world who think Cuba is decent are brainless Marxists online. Even Cubans don’t agree with your delusions.