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  • themurphy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    11·
    5 days ago

    That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.

    Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.

    Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.

    • Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      5 days ago

      The EU is one entity, consisting of several member states. Just like my own country consists of many regions and municipalities with their own elected officials.

      Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I’d rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.

      • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
        1·
        4 days ago

        Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I’d rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.

        Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU writing their own laws. An EU directive has no effect in Italy unless a law that acknowledges it is enacted. True, we must write a law that implement the directive but it is not an automatism.

        • Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          4 days ago

          An EU directive has no effect in Italy unless a law that acknowledges it is enacted. True, we must write a law that implement the directive but it is not an automatism.

          This is exactly what I wrote in the comment you replied to, albeit with different wording? Basically the only other options if the nation does not want to comply is: a) suffering punitive actions from the EU indefinitely or until they comply or b) leaving the EU.

      • themurphy@lemmy.mlEnglish
        12·
        5 days ago

        Yeah, sure. Go complain about your life in the EU. Must be awful.

        Maybe go outside and enjoy your privileged life in Europe.

        • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
          3·
          4 days ago

          It is not that living in EU remove our right to criticize what we think is not working.

          And currently there is a lot that not work in EU, or that can work way better.