Hi all,

I run a private self-hosted Synapse server with bridges for:

  • Signal
  • WhatsApp
  • Doscord
  • IRC
  • Google Voice
  • Custom APIs

I am thinking of switching to XMPP. Can anyone recommend a good Docker-based server and transport combo that I could test out?

  • kristoff@infosec.pub
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    1 day ago

    perhaps a stupid question, but are there bridges for XMPP ? My impression is that XMPP is as good as empty (I do use it mainly as a federated service). Is there still a lot of active development on the XMPP side of things?

    I do not understand your point with ‘you cannot change the URL’. If you use matrix as non-federated and just the only user, what is the problem that you need to change the URL when you need to set up a new server on a new URL? Not being able to change the server at the same URL seems like a logical concequence of authentication, be it for server-to-server communication as for client-to-server communication.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comOP
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      Yes they are called “transports”.

      As for when I tried to change the URL, I was moving all services from publicly resolvable DNS to .lan, and Matrix is an issue because you can’t change that after the fact, even if you haven’t federated.

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        10 hours ago

        HI, Thanks for the info (and also thanks to PoVog).

        My experience with mqtt is limited. I once set up a ejabberd server to try it out. It works but -as I mainly interested in federated chat- it was not that interesting. There was a lot less traffic and the rooms that exist that had traffic had a big issue with moderation (i.e. spam content). The S/N ratio of the discussions was a lot less then on matrix or other platforms.

        I also notice it was missing some features that are do are present in matrix, like the ability to edit messages. From how I understand it, the modulator nature of XMPP is a nice idea but as there is a large diversity on clients and the features they support, it does seems to come down to only the lowest common domininator to really work well.

        As I have just set up a pi5 as my new selfhosting-server, I might give it a try again, and see how well the transports (like slidge as mention by PoVog) work.

        Concerning the URL issue, as explained, it kind-of looks like a normal side-effect of the principle of server authentication. Alsom your use-case (one server, one client) it not the normal goal why chat-servers are build. Even in a non-federated use, you have multiple clients connecting to it. Cchanging the server hostname will impact all clients, so is probably a very rare scenario. I did see you use synapse. I do not know if you dendrite or conduit have the same behaviour.

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      23 hours ago

      Yes there are gateways (or transports) for xmpp. See for example https://slidge.im/ but there are also a few other projects.

      It’s maybe a bit less than for Matrix, but the ones that exist tend to work better.