• Crash@lemmy.ml
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    How do you know they often aren’t? I’m an academic and regularly use wikipedia to find citations for sources. I’ve have yet to come across any citations that were wrong.

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      Because I see the things they’re getting from Wikipedia and I am them, and they admit they didn’t actually check the sources.

      I’ve have yet to come across any citations that were wrong.

      How would you determine that a cited source was wrong?

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          I’ll click on them and then read them.

          And how will that allow you to know if they’re right or not?

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              Post truther is when you don’t believe that people have the magic ability to determine if something is true by pure gut feeling.

              All the liberal-fascists here whine about misinformation and post-truth, and then through a fucking fit that anyone suggest that they actually be serious about that.

              You people don’t want to combat misinformation, you want the misinformation you already believe to go unquestioned.

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            Then I read them and use my critical thinking skills. For research I put trust in peer review articles by reputable journals.

            But regardless,

            Isn’t that a broader question as to what we consider truth and not something specific to wikipedia ?

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              How are you able to determine matters of fact by pure critical thinking? Are you really claiming that you are immune to lies?

              For research I put trust in peer review articles by reputable journals.

              Great! I wish Wikipedia was held to that standard, rather than regularly using tabloids, think tanks, and literal propaganda outlets.

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                I’m genuinely curious, what are your standards for truth? What are your standards for facts?

                Does Wikipedia use tabloids, think tanks, and literal propaganda outlets?

                Is there anything that’s not factual in Wikipedia that survives their current editing process?

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                Well none of us are immune to lies, but how is that a problem specific to wikipedia? Isn’t that a much larger issue regarding humanity and our media ecosystem?

                If you click on either of those wikipedia pages I sent to you, what citations do you believe are lies or used incorrectly ?

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        How would you determine that a cited source was wrong?

        Subject matter experts do still exist. They’re dying off, and it’s unclear how many more we intend to create. But we do still have some.