This community usually discusses consumer rights, but nobody is discussing this initiative. Is it maybe cuz Lemmy’s majority ain’t American?

  • Nangijala@feddit.dk
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    13 hours ago

    Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn’t do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.

    You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it’s not gonna change anything.

    If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn’t matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you’re just gonna continue to use their products.

    The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can’t be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. “Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again”.

    Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?

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      Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t.

      Google+ was Google’s attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn’t to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don’t have access to the full social graph that Meta does.

      It wasn’t a complete failure. Before Google+ Google’s various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they’re able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they’d been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There’s so much interpersonal data they’re missing out on.

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      9 hours ago

      when has slacktivism ever changed the minds

      Hey, don’t you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s

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        7 hours ago

        Lol, did people do that? I only remember the black square for the blm movement, but I have also never really been on Twitter, so most of what I know about trends on that platform is what has been shared on other platforms.

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      8 hours ago

      I do really think that one of the things we have to do as collective, is something somewhat impossible but,
      We need to pick the things we really care about. Limit ourselves from the everything that we have been offered for so long and find what brings us joy specifically and start following and protecting that and doing it off the Internet, or at least the at large big players.
      Find artists in our spaces locally that make the comedy, or comics, or stories, the developers that make their own games and movies that dont outsource their work to others so that it no longer feels like art.

      We can still have globalised sharing and our spaces can support that by raising up the best of the best naturally through communication and sharing but not just by being told it’s gonna be big or given to us easily.

      The only way out feels like we as a collective need to start putting work into cultivating and tending to our fandoms and we cant be as greedy as it will take more work. Im fine with us being an insatiable species craving for more cause its how we don’t stop, and i want new artists and new creators and new spaces. But i think we cant be lazy about it anymore. And i think doubly so we cant think we can do all of it.

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        7 hours ago

        Problem is that the majority of people are not going to do any of that because it takes work and people either don’t want to let go of comforts, they don’t care enough or they don’t have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.

        It will probably only gain traction if it becomes the cool thing to do among young people and even then, it will most likely be a smaller number of young people who will bother doing all of this.

        The rest will become really good at prompting their way through life because its easier, more comfortable and takes the least effort.

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          they don’t have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.

          Good news! With the rate corporations are laying off and firing workers, pretty soon they will have plenty of time for activism.

          /S

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          6 hours ago

          Yeah i mean that seems likely with how things are going but also things rarely go exactly to plan.

          Im a realist so, i accept that it is entirely possible its gonna keep getting worse. I’m just also a sucker for optimism and maybe someday it will be better.

          Probably not tomorrow or next year… Probably gonna be a lot more of this for a while.

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            5 hours ago

            Hold on to your optimism! We need people like you.

            I consider myself a pessimistic optimist. Things probably aren’t gonna happen the way we hoped, but we will adapt and make some lemonade with what we are given.

            It’s so rare that hyped movements go anywhere because the focus is always on the wrong things, but in the long term, if companies make it increasingly obnoxious to use their services, people will most likely silently make the move to open source through word of mouth. It isn’t as sexy and bombastic as making clippy your avatar and doing armchair V for Vendetta protests, but it’s through people’s silent choices that change will gradually happen. Whether or not this change will be felt on a grand scale, I don’t know. I also don’t really care. I just believe that over time, more and more people will eventually turn their back on the big tech companies while the rest will stick around either out of indifference or ignorance and that is their right too.

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      11 hours ago

      Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.

      I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.