There has to be. When 99% of installs come from one location, there needs to be a way to describe that other than “Installing apps from outside the default app store”.
To make one is to support prejudice against installing software from elsewhere.
The words for distinguishing between apps that come from one trusted location vs others is usually untrusted or unverified apps versus trusted or verified ones. “Installing apps from outside the default app store” converts to, “Installing an untrusted app”.
Okay, I understand your position. Android’s play store has market dominance, so the a term to distinguish between 99% of play store installs vs others, makes sense.
Now, that is a tangent to the main issue, just arguing semantics. The issue is control versus
openness, not about the term sideloading.
Is Google’s plan to restrict app sideloading a good thing in your eyes, or no?
Nice, I could tell you’re a smart dude, so at least we all can agree that Android is no longer to be trusted.
Funny how words and language become the focus of this thread, and then the main issues get pushed to the side. I was arguing against you as if we didn’t agree on the main problem 😅
Installing an app is not the same thing as installing an app? What difference does it make where it came from? Why do you need two different words for installing an app? Why does the distinction of where it came from matter when the outcome is no different?
I didn’t say that’s what you said, I’m making a point that its the same fucking thing. Read the rest of my comment and answer my questions please. Or do you agree that there’s no functional difference and splitting hairs about where it came from is just a way to enforce corporate hegemony?
It was clearly the implied suggestion. I’ve already answered your questions a dozen times elsewhere. Gonna have to have a poke around because I don’t feel like typing them again.
Or do you agree that there’s no functional difference and splitting hairs about where it came from is just a way to enforce corporate hegemony?
The functional difference is that one means “installing from anywhere” and the other means “installing from outside the default app store”. They are different words with different meanings, one being more specific than the other.
It’s like saying “neurosurgeon” instead of “medical professional”. There is a difference. One is much more specific. “Neurosurgeon” wasn’t made up by Big Pharma to gaslight you into believing brain surgery was bad, it’s just a lot fewer words than “medical professional who does surgery on brains”.
The functional difference is that one means “installing from anywhere” and the other means “installing from outside the default app store”. They are different words with different meanings, one being more specific than the other.
If the outcome is the same, then there is no functional difference. If I say I need to see a doctor, there is a functional difference between a neurosurgeon and another medical professional. If I say I want to download a calculator app, there is no functional difference if I download it from a first-party app store or a third-party app store. You’re splitting hairs. Stop supporting corporate hegemony.
If the outcome is the same, then there is no functional difference.
The outcome is absolutely not the same. If Google said “we’re no longer allowing you to install apps”, that would be a completely different conversation. There is a functional differrence.
If someone sent a nurse in to do your neurosugery, that would absolutely not be the same…
I don’t understand why this needs to be explained…
You’re splitting hairs
My brother in Christ, you’re literally the one splitting hairs…that’s the opposite of what I’m doing.
There has to be. When 99% of installs come from one location, there needs to be a way to describe that other than “Installing apps from outside the default app store”.
No? It isn’t.
The words for distinguishing between apps that come from one trusted location vs others is usually untrusted or unverified apps versus trusted or verified ones. “Installing apps from outside the default app store” converts to, “Installing an untrusted app”.
It’s not that complicated.
It doesn’t. It’s not that complicated.
The majority of PC game sales happen via steam but we don’t call games purchased from GOG “sideloaded.”
There is no necessary reason to make the distinction
There is and I’ve already given it. MS app store doesn’t make up 99% of installations.
Okay, I understand your position. Android’s play store has market dominance, so the a term to distinguish between 99% of play store installs vs others, makes sense.
Now, that is a tangent to the main issue, just arguing semantics. The issue is control versus openness, not about the term sideloading.
Is Google’s plan to restrict app sideloading a good thing in your eyes, or no?
A tangent someone else made. Many others really.
100%
Absolutely not. I will no longer recommend Android to anyone. It’s cooked, as far as I’m concerned.
Nice, I could tell you’re a smart dude, so at least we all can agree that Android is no longer to be trusted.
Funny how words and language become the focus of this thread, and then the main issues get pushed to the side. I was arguing against you as if we didn’t agree on the main problem 😅
Words and language are very important sometimes. I just disagree that this is one of those times.
Y tho. What difference does it make? Its the same thing.
It’s simply not the same thing and if you can’t understand how that makes it different, I don’t know how to help you.
Installing an app is not the same thing as installing an app? What difference does it make where it came from? Why do you need two different words for installing an app? Why does the distinction of where it came from matter when the outcome is no different?
Yes, that’s exactly what I said 😮💨
I didn’t say that’s what you said, I’m making a point that its the same fucking thing. Read the rest of my comment and answer my questions please. Or do you agree that there’s no functional difference and splitting hairs about where it came from is just a way to enforce corporate hegemony?
It was clearly the implied suggestion. I’ve already answered your questions a dozen times elsewhere. Gonna have to have a poke around because I don’t feel like typing them again.
The functional difference is that one means “installing from anywhere” and the other means “installing from outside the default app store”. They are different words with different meanings, one being more specific than the other.
It’s like saying “neurosurgeon” instead of “medical professional”. There is a difference. One is much more specific. “Neurosurgeon” wasn’t made up by Big Pharma to gaslight you into believing brain surgery was bad, it’s just a lot fewer words than “medical professional who does surgery on brains”.
If the outcome is the same, then there is no functional difference. If I say I need to see a doctor, there is a functional difference between a neurosurgeon and another medical professional. If I say I want to download a calculator app, there is no functional difference if I download it from a first-party app store or a third-party app store. You’re splitting hairs. Stop supporting corporate hegemony.
The outcome is absolutely not the same. If Google said “we’re no longer allowing you to install apps”, that would be a completely different conversation. There is a functional differrence.
If someone sent a nurse in to do your neurosugery, that would absolutely not be the same…
I don’t understand why this needs to be explained…
My brother in Christ, you’re literally the one splitting hairs…that’s the opposite of what I’m doing.