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ROFL this thread is hillarious. OP sure picked the wrong instance to ask their question.
(For fuck sakes: Please do not ask questions (expecially questions that may involve politics) in TankieLiteEdition.ml, aka: lemmy.ml)
Yeah. I don’t see much wrong with that aspect. Treating them cruelly is the issue.
Imperialism isn’t necessarily bad, it’s just how you go about it.
Some of the issues with the British empire is that they left some places too early.
The Chinese treated Tibet, Mongolia and the Uyghurs cruelly, to name a few from modern history.
I don’t really know who to believe anymore, after the amount of western propoganda going around tbh.
For example, I went to China. Specifically a state-run Church there. And it was normal. The media back here and people kept saying it was purely a propoganda front and “the real believers are underground”.
Some said I’d be arrested immediately upon entering (???). I was greeted quite warmly and friendily by all of the officials. Police were lovely, as well as soldiers
My guess is the stuff we read about are isolated incidents. Some are apparently later dealt with. But by the time said isolated incidents make it to western media, the narrative makes it seem like it’s a nationwide policy.
The chinese banknotes even have Uyghur and Tibetan languages on it. I also met a Uyghur Muslim who was studying in the UK, so she was clearly allowed to leave the country. They can’t hate them that much. Although China does become really paranoid with stuff as well. So I’m not too sure what to believe. Not like I can change anything anyway.
P.S. I also found out a bunch of media I was previously consuming about China was all linked to Li Hongzi, who is an absolute nutcase.
The halved birthrates for the Uyghurs in the last couple of years is a clear sign, they can’t suppress that.
Sounds to me like you got the North Korean Tourist treatment.
Everyone’s birth rates are rapidly declining.
I don’t think I got a north korean tourist treatment. The water went off several times in one day. The Chinese family I stayed with also got the same treatment.
That being said, I’m not making any claims. I just don’t trust everything the media says about China anymore.
You visited as a tourist, not as an advocate; of course, you’re going to see what you want to see. Next time, you should ask about Tiananmen Square or question police powers, and see what happens
And Australia has Aboriginals on their notes too. What an asinine point.
This sounds exactly like someone defending Israel. Oh, I visited Israel, and there are arabs and Palestinians, and everyone is very happy and friendly. They even have Arabic on their banknotes!
Why should I ask? It’s not really any of my business. I don’t think you’ll have a good time anywhere if you question police powers.
And Australia celebrates it’s aboriginals?
Because you’re acting like an authority, saying you’ve been to China and didn’t see any of this.
And yes, Australia celebrates its Aboriginals now, but that isn’t my point. My point is that it doesn’t magically remove the imperialism that minorities face.
I’m not an authority. I’m just giving my own personal experience. I don’t think the idea people get from the media is accurate. Every country has it’s pros and it’s cons. China is no different. It’s not North Korea.
long as you admit china is imperialist with human rights abuses we coo
So is the USA, so is the UK, so is Israel, so is Russia, so is Hamas (well not really imperialist)…