I’d honestly feel better to hear someone calling us dog eating chingchong than this tankie shit. At least they’re open about being racist and there’s some truth to it.

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    Capitalism and Leninism are equally bad. There’s no argument the ML can make that south Korea would have been better under the rule of the north. Objectively, despite the problems south Korea has. And there are many. They’ve done much better for their people. You can whine that the west has kept the North down with embargoes and sanctions. But you only have to look to china. For all their flaws to find a group that despite brutalizing and oppressing their people has done much better for them. Simply because the north is held thrall to a nepo state of cultish personality.

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      I think Korea would have been better off deciding its own future.

      There was a moment in history where a communist North Korea could have really succeeded but due to both internal and external factors it obviously didn’t.

      I do think that those of us in the West sometimes downplay how much damage the Korea war did though.

      Something like 70-80% of their cities were flattened. It’s hard to recover from that while the us is constantly interfering. This is not a defense of the regime but just kinda sad what has happened to the North Korean people. It’s miserable.

      South Korea and it’s oligarchy fucking sucks too. It just looks prettier and has more food.

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        There was a moment in history where a communist North Korea could have really succeeded but due to both internal and external factors it obviously didn’t.

        Would that be before or after Kim Il Sung decided to be a totalitarian despot?

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          Depends on when you put the demarcation point for that, but the North had a higher quality of life than the South for quite some time. South Korea was under its own dictator for much of the post-war period. Its economy didn’t really get going until the 1980s. It was mostly agrarian until then.

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            The only time when the North had better quality of life than the South was when they were being massively subsidized by the USSR. When the Soviet economy collapsed and the foreign income stopped, North Korea collapsed too. It was never a functional economy on its own merits.

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              The only reason western Europe shaped up so well in the post-war era was because the United States massively subsidized it. So what?