• foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
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    30 days ago

    funny, everone here talking about “tankies” whatever this is, but not about the fascist origin and tradition of the slogan.

    • LwL@lemmy.world
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      30 days ago

      Origin is irrelevant, the reality of how it’s used today is what matters. Language evolves and slogans are just language.

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        30 days ago

        if this were true, that would mean that the nowadays Ukrainian nationalists didn’t have enough phantasy to come up with something original.

        but the argument is bollocks. it’s not only untrue, it’s ignorant and dangerous.

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      30 days ago

      What are the fascist origins? From what I have read, it was first used by Taras Shevchenko, a poet who promoted Ukrainian independence from tsarist Russia and was described as “the founder of the revolutionary democratic trend in the history of Ukrainian social thought” and a utopian socialist. He didn’t seem fascist in the slightest. Then it was popularised by various nationalists in the Ukrainian War of Independence who established a short-lived parliamentary republic. That’s not fascist either.

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          29 days ago

          The history I stated was what I found from looking up the slogan. If it was co-opted to some other cause later, I genuinely do not know about it.