Everything is related to politics, I don’t believe it’s possible to truly be “non-political.” When someone requests something unrelated to politics, they generally just mean that they don’t want to be held accountable for their views or called out for them.

How do you define “directly relating to politics?” The fact that marginalized people don’t have the support they need is political. Homelessness, drug addiction, all of these are political problems that stem from political economy.

Those are all political though.

I don’t think that was particularly negative, to be honest, nor was it sarcastic at all.

Not really sure what you’re expecting to get from a predominantly communist website, right-wingers in general aren’t well-liked.

Those are all work and political, though.

I don’t think conservatives can build genuine camaraderie, that’s the left’s thing historically.

Look up Assata Shakur, and read Assata: An Autobiography.

I live on Earth, too. The US Empire is dying, western Europe is facing a crisis because of the decline in imperialist super-profits, while the global south is escaping underdevelopment and socialist countries like the PRC are rising rapidly. With the downfall of imperialism, there will be a surge in further movements towards socialism.

It’s certainly a controversial take on communist-friendly instances.

The communists are learning new languages, the horror!

Imperialist. It’s international, but is an alliance of imperialist states that plunder internationally. Internationalism in a progressive manner requires undermining imperialism.

Can you answer why you’re insistent on analyzing processes outside of the context they exist in? That’s all this comment does as well. If you’re not going to respond to my criticisms of your metaphysical outlook, then defend it, otherwise all I can do is continue to point out that you keep trying to slice away context and view processes in a vacuum that doesn’t exist and doesn’t represent reality accurately as a consequence.

And yet I don’t think people who believed in WMD stuff from then thought Iraqis were subhuman either. Just a detail there.

Except they did. Anti-Iraqi bigotry was all over the news, manufacturing consent for war. The racism played a part in selling the lies about WMD.

No, you gave me one other data-point from statista that measured attitudes to socialism (not communism). Your other link just referred back to your original communism poll with 30% of under 30s. That same poll also asked people’s opinions on socialism, which is what it also spoke about.

I gave you an earlier poll from 1978 as well, you can feel free to revisit my earlier comments and find it. None of that changes your metaphysical outlook on the world around us, which is the fundamental problem here, one you refuse to even acknowledge as such.

Being an internationalist in the context of Marxism-Leninism means supporting movements undermining imperialism, which the WEF is a part of perpetuating. It isn’t about isolationism, and further much of that was driven by western sanctions.

I would assume many people who echo or read the claims here about organ harvesting are convinced, at least somewhat, by the many articles and groups that have investigated it. It has much more body behind it in writing than Trumps claims about Haitians eating cats and dogs which is an attack against individuals Haitians vs. Chinese government.

And these people would be falling for far-right propaganda, same as the anti-Haitian nonsense. The “body behind it” is built on shakey eyewitness testemony from a far-right cult, and counter-investigation has found nothing supporting the cult’s claims. This is just Saddam and the WMD allegations all over again, which also had a “large body of writing” that ended up being gibberish to anyone actually investigating it.

Small group says they’re growing. What a surprise.

You are, from what I can see monitoring reasonable rises in ‘socialism’ identification (which could mean a number of things) and then just assuming it’ll continue growing and then also saying it must also be heavily filtering down to communism based on one poll specifically, and which we have no historical polls to compare it to.

I gave you other polls, but more importantly I’m not just assuming proven trends will continue without basis, but by comparing it to other historical trends where support for socialism and communism rose. It climbs in response to decaying material conditions, which are observable in the US Empire. Your intention to ignore context, and to try to analyze everything as a static, unmoving abstract is again an example of metaphysics on your part, which is anti-scientific in analysis.

Marxist-Leninists are internationalists, as in supporting the international movement against imperialism and for socialism globally. The idea of free-trade, and dominance of imperialist finance capital, WEF, etc. is right-wing, and leftists oppose this.

“Globalism” is usually a dogwhistle for racist views.

By this logic, you could say any criticism of China is inherently racist.

No? I criticize the PRC from time to time, just on the basis of material reality, not baseless allegations by a far-right cult magnified by the western press as easy propaganda.

Evangelists don’t force conversion. They’re just shouting in the street at people holding their scripture. They may pester, or holler at people walking by.

And yeah, a hypothetical libertarian or MAGA type would be similar.

Cool, so that doesn’t apply to me, then.

I don’t spread it. You bought it up to me originally.

You brought up “evidence” and said it had a good deal of history and investigation. If you haven’t investigated it, then don’t just do that and legitimize the narrative.

Or people’s understanding of socialism widens and changes. There is a rise to it, but I don’t know if I’d say it’s notable larger than a recent revival to social conservatism as many other polls have depicted.

Contradictions are sharpening, the left is becoming more consistently socialist/communist while the right is becoming more reactionary. Both are true, because this is a dialectical struggle of two opposing tendencies, one seeking to progress forward, the other seeking to wind the clock “back,” so to speak. It isn’t “either-or,” it’s “both-and.” This is yet anothet example of metaphysics in your analysis, and is why you need to adopt a dialectical viewpoint if you want to accurately see the world.

Google search seems to suggest PSL doesn’t release its membership figures publicly, so not sure what data you’re referring to.

You are also assuming, or seem to be assuming that any relatively rises in communism (which, to be clear is not specifically laid out by any empirical data) will somehow hold and it will keep growing progressively.

PSL membership is increasing, this is coming from the members themselves. They don’t release hard data because they aren’t stupid, but 2024-2026 in particular have had tremendous growth.

The trends for increasing socialism/communism coincide with capitalist decay, which is an observable, material process. It isn’t something that happens because people discuss it alone, but because life has been getting harder and harder for the statesian working classes year over year.

This is why you need to apply dialectical materialism to understand the world accurately.

It’s clearly got more history and investigations behind it historically than the “cats and dogs” rubbish from Trump which literally cast aspersions on individuals because they are from Haitian (or even just assumed to be) rather than the organ-harvesting thing which attacks the government, not Chinese people individually. What would be comparably racist here would be people making claims about Chinese hygiene or food after COVID.

The major difference is that the allegations are against foreigners, not immigrants. The claims of organ harvesting harken to colonial arguments against “savages” that can’t govern themselves properly.

Why would the USA cut them off economically down the line?

Because the US Empire is declining, and has less and less financial power, plus the PRC will be able to undercut Taiwanese production eventually anyways.

I disagree. I once saw post by you basically saying you specifically use your .ml account for outreach so in that sense, you are.

But by your own admission, an evangelist forces conversion. I don’t. Use consist definitions. Further, are all activists that focus on actvism “evangelists” to you, or just left-wing ones?

I haven’t looked into the allegations specifically myself, beyond being aware of them having been made when I see a news article pop up about it from time-to-time.

So you’re uncritically giving credibility to far-right propaganda, then, and are comfortable spreading it.

I know, but polls are often vague when using terms, and so plenty of people also answer in that same spirit - so you can get plenty of people who aren’t actually socialists may well answer “yes” to that in the first place.

Sure, but it’s important to contextualize that with shifting demographics overall, and the knowledge that as socialism spreads, misconceptions about it shrink away among those that describe themselves as such.

Right, so on the question of communism specifically, we can’t know how young people felt about it in the 90s, 00s, 10s etc to make a useful comparison for how it has grown here or whether or not it was at any point highet etc.

This is vulgar empiricism. If you engage in actual analysis of material, real trends over time, contextualize them with declining opinions of capitalism, rising opinions of socialism, etc, then you can observe related rising in communist sympathies. Communist orgs like PSL are gaining in membership rapidly, and the statesian working classes are becoming increasingly radicalized. By focusing purely on abstractions, you again make the mistake of seeing history as static snapshots.

I said I didn’t regard it as inherently racist.

You also defended and legitimized the viewpoint itself.

Depends on if by “pull out” you just mean militarily. USA moving out of Taiwan in terms of committing to defending them doesn’t necessarily mean that their economy would degrade.

Taiwan depends on exports of semiconductors, without the US presense millitarily and economically and as the PRC improves its semiconductor production Taiwan will be economically compelled to fully reintegrate.

I don’t evangelise for Piefed. I defend it a lot, but I never really tell people they must use it.

Cool, so I’m not an evangelist then.

There’s all kinds of organisations listed on there. The point is regardless of what you claim, it has been at a much higher level of reputation than the Haitian claims.

They have the same level of credibility. The fact that more westerners fall for anti-China propaganda does not mean that it is more credible.

Socialism will absolutely include a ton of social-democrats and incrementalists. The second link you’ve referred to here is a report on the same poll that focuses on their support for “socialism”. Specifically, what polls that directly ask people about communism can we refer to from the 90s, 00s, 10s etc?

Social democrats are not included in socialism, and incrementalists are fringe. Socialism is inherently pre-communist, and thus rising attitudes towards socialism are linked to rising attitudes towards communism. There’s no consistent polling of communism specifically in the US over time, but you can compare these numbers above with the numbers from 1983.