They don’t have to publish false numbers. Just keep vague which numbers they are posting. “Total active licenses” was what I referenced earlier.

I own 6 Windows Professional licenses. I am presently using two. You really think Microsoft are the ones to trust?

Having numbers others don’t doesn’t make those numbers useful or true in every context.

The same people selling the clearnet will be the same people who will never let the existing stuff die, so they can sell the problems, the “solutions”, child-porn, and most stupidly, considering they seem to honestly believe they want to force this on the rest of us, to feel they are “above the law”, and not confined to the bounds of their own machinations.

I’m not convinced more than maybe 5 or 10% of people will ever actually use the clear-net, or even be able to afford to either. The same idiots trying to force it are populating their new “walled-garden for the rest of them” with, basically, AI spoofs of the rest of the population. They are already huffing their own farts the the point they won’t be able to tell the difference, like an artificial resurgence of The Bicameral Mind for “the ruling class”.

Its all pattern-recognition. Your side of the debate is arguing that training on patterns is theft of said patterns, the same way industries are fighting reverse-engineering and right-to-repair in the legal sphere. I may not spend most of my time working and playing out-doors, but I woud wager I have always spent more time doing-so, and still-do, compared to yourself.

Spent most of my life being told I’m un-motivated and un-serious for prioritizing life over work, work in physical mediums over digital, and avoiding the “defense” or marketting industries, just to be told I’m un-informed or “clearly agitated” when I engage with those who took the opposite route.

Look in the mirror; Did I say you should feel guilt or be unable to sleep at night? Yes, I’m fully aware the people who think as I described “you” are few and far between among those who can even do what you do, but you described me as one of them first.

You also never engaged with my statements on the origins of modern code, even and especially pattern recognition and neural networks, so here we are.

Everyone on all sides is so quick to rule out anyone they engage with as un-informed, a vested-interest with an agenda, or “lacking standing” - that’s how we got to a state where almost every elected official started from a degree in politics or law. Meanwhile, I repeat, taxpayers payed for all of it, the same ones who have also been paying the creator-“class” all-along.

Why would you let keeping-up with AI code cut-into the amount of time you spend writting code? Your conflating Torvalds being okay with/allowing programmers using a tool PROPERLY with Amazon, Meta, Google, Microsoft and their ilk shoving it down everyone’s throats, proper usage be damned.

Fresh Air

Heard of it?

So you helped create the problem, only so you could show it to be a problem, then turn around and sell us the solution, eh?

Between the two of us, you are literally the AI bro. Eating your own shit and calling it gourmet. I’ve stayed the fuck away from the software industry, let-alone AI, my entire life because I grew-up with and around would-be authoritative rent-seekers like you.

20 something years of software-industry experience is still mostly copying/rehashing the work of those who came before - you didn’t create shit, just re-packaged it in a way your company could sell.

The ground-up? Gotta go a lot further back than 20 years to claim that. Your name’s not on the patents or textbooks, so by your arguments, you’ve stolen every bit of it you ever consumed and then turned-around and applied, and since you didn’t invent it yourself you can’t even really understand it.

Again, that’s your argument because you can’t concieve of the idea that something you “created” off the work of those who came before you could ever approach the understanding you must claim certainty of to speak with such authority.

One of us wants to turn off the money-printing machine because its un-sustainable. You, however would rather focus on the insanity that is Intellectual Property Rights. Our taxes paid for all of that shit.

I pay authors, artists, musicians, and yes, I buy software, even knockoff stuff when its less enshittified than the original has become. I’ll bet you’re more afraid of AI realizing the burden en-shittification creates than you are even slightly concerned about anyone going un-paid for original code.

Dictionaries update to reflect current-usage. Millenials were also a US baby-boom generation, and my older three children, born mid-00’s, were part of a surge in births that made the papers. There’s good reason even your own link doesn’t include a date range.

Some are born in good times. Some are born into lots of company in their age range. Plenty are born-into neither, and the dictionary can’t distill all that into understanding without being vague on-purpose to leave room for idiots to grow.

He’s a political/economic pragmatist. If you have record of him promoting capitalism or bashing socialism, please share, but as it is, Norway is one of the dozen most-socialist-leaning coutries on earth.

Maybe don’t apply USian non-sense everywhere. Liberal vs Mamdani as a prejorative is relavent. Liberal vs Torvalds as a prejoritive makes about as much sense as saying the same about Xi Jiping, Kim Jong Un, Miguel Díaz-Canel, or Lenin.

It’s absurd, obtuse, and besides the point, every bit so as the DNC using identity politics only to silence, promote, or ignore real voices for change.

Everything in your first paragraph is contrary to your first sentence. Every single one of those is another argument, but using a turn of phrase and baiting was apparently more important than even making the first, best, and most relavent argument you brought-out.

The real clincher is that you then pretend the person you are replying to didn’t already make those arguments, well, and that you are disagreeing with them.

“This isn’t [the] gotcha you think it is”, really?

That will change over time, as the expense of utilizing them wastefully or in general has already. This isn’t a news article or snap-shot of the state of things today - its a mandate for due diligence going-forward, and an elaboration on how its been addressed so-far.

Programmers already spend about as-much of their time, if not more, reading other’s code as they do writing their own. It doesn’t mater if that “other’s code” is AI generated or not.

There’s an argument to be made about excessive vs not-enough commenting, but that’s not where you went, and its clear you have negligible programming experience, or creative experience for that matter, to be coming after the concept of sharing code like-so.

One wonders how many books you’ve read, to be pretending that reading a book without paying for it, even borrowing from a library, is theft. Stick with the environmental costs arguments - its what you are personally suited to argue, and far more urgent than the rest.

IME, rentals had shit quality, unless you were one of the first few people to rent that movie. Still watchable, mind you, but the software for ripping back then would hang on the mildest errors.

My guess was that most of the high quality torrents back then were ripped by people who bought or stole New-in-box discs, or employees at stores that rented or sold them, and don’t forget Screeners.

It’s actually not that hard to figure-out which file in the torrent they give you is the one book you want, by which I mean, I don’t recall exactly how, but my dumb-ass figured it out and did it a few times.

If you didn’t know, you don’t have to download and seed every file in a given torrent. In fact, a lot of torrents seem “broken” because .nfo’s, .txt’s, Extras and/or Samples aren’t being seeded.

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When Asahi started, the M1 chips were so good they might as well have been the only ARM-based-that-can-run-x86/x64-code-CPUs in-town. Last I checked, the M-series were still consistetly near the top of the stack of such chips, and look even better when you account for price.

Your argument works even better versus the Snapdragon X, but that’s Microsoft’s current fav, so … ?

Thanks for spelling-out the stupid for me. My brain was hung-up on the correct way to un-fuck logic I would rather not understand, for a moment. “Too stupid for words” came to mind, and the phrase just sorta … hung out, wasting time.

I’m happy with days when reality lets me pretend I’m gonna get to start, let alone complete, the thing. Perfection? What’s that?