sounds like a lot of conjecture to me. i think there is hope in groups owning, operating and funding their own instances. software platforms will get better over time. funding pathways will get better over time.

i dont think we should just toss our hands up and say ‘nope, too hard. only jerks need apply’

agreed that we need to work on scaling out horizontally. i think that ironically poor moderation will help with this over time. it took reddit 20 years to get where it is.

i agree. bending over for people butthurt about meta seems like a great way to limit your market artificially.

then again, i named my public instance moist

Lemmy has in may places worse moderation than reddit.

yet this is exactly what the fediverse was designed to work around. giving the power back to the users. when .ml decides to block a bunch of shit due to butt-hurt mods, communities can be moved elsewhere without everyone having to make new accounts.

that is a personal problem, not a general protocol based one.

yep. as an mbin cheerleader, i evaluated both and kbin was better looking and perfectly functional from the start. no app required. no custom user-land css.

but what really bothers me is the conflation of lemmy and fediverse. theyre used almost interchangeably. other platforms get lost in the discussion.

mbin is a bit less hostile (native reddit) looking than lemmy

its a chicken and egg thing. the fediverse cant scale if we arent pressured to fix scaling issues. we need users to highlight the pain points so we can fix things that allow those users.

i really like the idea of civilization… but its so freakin scripted it feels like im playin someone elses story.

totk is almost a masterpiece, i would not hate more of that kind of game play/world experience.

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

be the change you want to see

mbin is pretty modular. you can totally segment services if you know what youre doin… in fact part of the reason i chose it, for scaling.

if ya havent already seen this, heres a quick list:

https://fedidb.org/software/peertube

ive seen a bit of chatter about not trusting US hosting providers. also, prolly more expensive (conjecture).

yep, fedidb has it at a single instance;

https://fedidb.org/software/kbin

i wish i could get a hold of kbin.social if no one is going to do anything with it… maybe forward it to fedia.io

mbin!

theres a manual fix for this. in mbin, when you attach the image in a post and save, it is uploaded and shown. you can then grab the image link (right click image, copy link), edit the post, and add the link using the image tag, and save, it then shows in-line in lemmy.

yeah, it sucks but at least it works until this is implemented. ive been usin this method for over a year now…

why not both?

i didnt come across lemmy, specifically. i wanted to build a public reddit clone, and found ‘kbin’, which federated both microblog (mastodon/universodeon/threads) and threaded forums (lemmy)… so i built that. kbin has since died, but was resurrected in a fork named mbin.

so im not technically on lemmy, but our instance fully federates with it.

ive been actively recruiting users from reddit who dont like swimming in bot farms talkin to eachother.

prolly should have spent more time on that than marketing an unfinished ‘product’'. its kind of telling also that it works in an app better than a simple web api. im betting this shits not going to scale well.

me too. apps are for children.

wtf is the point of federation if it doesnt work on the systems its federating to like the boatload of browser-based systems??