History Major. Cripple. Vaguely Left-Wing. In pain and constantly irritable.
No need to try; I’m not a husband at all.
Then you don’t need to worry about feminism making your wife leave you for being a shitty husband. I don’t see what you’re so worked up about, unless you think that women shouldn’t be able to leave their husbands if they want to? :)
Have you tried being a less shitty husband?
That’s literally its fucking purpose. NATO as a treaty organization has no other functions than defense and standardization. Everything else is a question of the choices of individual countries. Fuck man, even at the height of the Cold War NATO countries were out supporting opposite sides of conflicts.
I don’t really know what kind of boogeyman org you think NATO is, but I might suggest listening less to campists.
“which spontaneous comment might generate a shitstorm”
Yeah, if it was an issue of them making off-color comments, it might be one thing. Using their position to amplify pro-genocide positions, and silence anti-genocide voices? Another thing entirely.
Putting up with some degree of eccentricity and problematic behavior is legitimately something you have to deal with if something isn’t being run by committee (which has its own set of issues). But the core issue with the Lemmy devs is that they’re fascists who seek to amplify fascist talking points, not that they’re ‘untrained’ in PR. Fuck them.
If you had read any of the sources I provided, you might see that there’s more to this conflict than just a simple land-grab.
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Well we agree on this, at least.
Clearly we don’t, as you consider Ukraine’s resistance to its territory being annexed and its people genocided to be the function of NATO puppeteering.
“US interference in Euromaidan is a conspiracy theory” - Public actions and statements by U.S. officials during Maidan (Victoria Nuland meeting protesters, leaked Nuland–Pyatt call discussing preferred Ukrainian political figures) are evidence of U.S. diplomatic involvement and attempts to influence the post‑Maidan government.
“It’s debatable whether it was actually a CIA coup!” and “The literal US ambassador to Ukraine discussing the political situation with the assistant secretary of state” are fucking miles away from each other, but that kind of motte-and-bailey argument is the bread-and-butter of far-right bootlickers.
“NATO is merely a “defensive alliance” and not a credible threat to Russia”
NATO is absolutely a credible threat to Russian imperialist ambitions.
NATO forces have been used to further western imperialism (which you claim to be against, no?) in places like Libya
Western Imperialism is when the UN approves a no-fly zone in an uprising against a brutal dictator, and the more the UN approves it, the more Imperialism it is.
and Afghanistan.
You mean the only time in NATO’s history when Article 5 was fucking invoked? Jesus Christ.
Structurally, it ensures that European members stay subservient to Washington and broadly fall in line with US foreign policy.
Fucking what.
The addition of multiple countries like Poland, Finland, Hungary and the Baltic States were obviously seen by Russia as signs of encroachment beyond NATO’s original mandate.
Yes, how dare those countries desire a defensive alliance against the possibility of foreign intervention. Russia will have to invade multiple neighboring countries to show them how baseless their fears of invasion are!
It astounds me the level of bootlicking campists are willing to engage in.
Funny how you call me a “bootlicker” and make loud pronouncements about my assumed worldview, when I expressly did not claim to support Russia, or it’s invasion of Ukraine.
“I just spread blatantly untrue Russian talking points in support of their war aims, I’m not actually in support of them! 😭”
Boot leather taste good, buddy?
Still no response to the actual points I raised either, despite your whingeing about me bringing up that your sources were all common and blatant propaganda canards.
Like I said, with this conflict it’s either black or white apparently.
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God forbid I hear your opinions on the very reasonable war aims of that Hitler fellow back in 1939. Wouldn’t want to see things as just ‘black or white’ after all.
Maybe imperialism and fucking genocide is bad?
No, of course not. It’s the Ukrainians who are wrong. And the West was clearly puppeteering them into defending themselves.
Like I said, dare to question the orthodox, black-and-white view of this conflict and it quickly devolves into shouting and name-calling.
Sorry that you want to spread pro-genocide talking points and be treated with asspats instead of disdain. Maybe go find a circle of like-minded pro-genocide types, like a Zionist forum, for example.
So instead of engaging with these ideas intellectually or producing counter claims, you automatically dismiss them as “Russian talking points”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law
Sorry that you want fucking bizarre ideas like “Euromaidan was a far-right coup”, “Russia was just really concerned about minorities!” and “Trump was never favorable to Russian interests!” taken seriously, bootlicker.
And funny how you ignore the actual points I brought up in refutation, but I guess the innate desire of all of Russia’s enemies to submit to imperialism and genocide is an axiom of your worldview.
I believe you have my stapler…
that US officials and diplomats actively supported the uprising in 2014
Are we really getting into Euromaidan conspiracies now?
NATO expansion continued despite warnings that Russia would perceive it as a direct threat
Funny how Russia perceives a defensive alliance as a direct threat. It couldn’t be because they’ve openly made insane statements like questioning the sovereignty of the Baltic states, which they regard as rightfully Russia’s, or… you know… invading multiple fucking neighbors and annexing their territory.
The US and NATO have arguably perpetuated the war in Ukraine because it creates profits for the military-industrial complex, rather than actively trying to bring about peace.
“Ukraine would have welcomed genocide if only the US and NATO weren’t egging them on!” is such a fucking bizarre position.
A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
The war will only be solved through negotiations that allow ethnic Russians in Ukraine to have autonomy and Moscow’s protection, as well as Ukrainian neutrality, which means the country cannot join NATO.
The Kyiv-CIA partnership deepened under the Trump administration, yet again putting the lie to the baseless idea that former President Trump was somehow amenable to Russia’s interests while in office.
Jesus fucking Christ. Any other Russian talking points you’d like to mindlessly circulate?
Now there’s a template I haven’t seen in a very long time…
Like having a new coworker who enthusiastically notes how ‘exciting’ their first real day on the job was 😭
Don’t worry! The coffee filter will see many more uses too! 😊
ZERO WASTE
I obey o7
Me, feigning kindness while being a petty bitch behind my eyes:
Oh, right, you’re the bizarre fellow who keeps simping for billionaires. I should’ve guessed, lmao.