Yes, and my point is that operational cycle of the model dominates total energy consumption. And turns out that it’s not actually that high in the grand scheme of things, and continues to improve all the time.

Meanwhile, it’s absolutely necessary to contextualize AI energy use in relation to the other ways we use energy to understand whether there’s something exceptional happening here or not. All the information for figuring out how much energy AI is using is available. We know how much energy models use, and rough numbers of people using them. So, that’s not a big mystery.

Whether they’re trained from scratch or not is very much material because it takes far more energy to do that. Meanwhile, we consume energy as a civilization in general. And frankly, a lot of energy is consumed on far dumber things like advertisements. If you count all the energy that goes into producing and displaying ads, that dwarfs AI energy use. So, it’s kind of weird t0 single AI energy use out here as some form of exceptional evil.

Models training is a one off effort. Model usage is what matters because that’s where energy is used continuously. Also, practically nobody trains models from scratch right now. People use existing base models to tune and extend them.

At this point, I’d trust the AI over the clowns running the Burger Reich.

I’m pretty excited to live to see western hegemony over the world finally breaking.

I get a strong impression that the whole extinction of humanity narrative is really just an astroturf marketing campaign by AI companies. They’re basically scaremongering because it gets in the news, and the goal is to convince investors how smart these things are. It’s the whole OpenAI claiming they’re on the verge of AGI right before pivoting to doing horny chatbots. These are useful tools, and I also use them day to day, but the hype around them is absolutely incredible.

I think we have plenty of real risks to humanity to worry about, like the US starting a nuclear holocaust. We don’t need to waste time worrying about imaginary risks like AGI here.

I’d also argue the whole energy consumption argument is very myopic. The reality is that these things have been getting more and more efficient, and there is little reason to think that’s not going to be continue being the case going forward. It’s completely new tech, and it’s basically just moved past proof of concept stages. There’s going to be a lot of optimization happening down the road. And even when you contextualize current energy usage, it’s not as crazy as people seem to think https://www.simonpcouch.com/blog/2026-01-20-cc-impact/

We’re also starting to see stuff like this happening https://www.anuragk.com/blog/posts/Taalas.html

What the article is saying is that people were using Outlook on their company computers, and Outlook exposed the data to Copilot by sending it outside the company.

Confidential generally means data that is internal to a particular organization and is not meant to be publicly shared.

Honestly, that’s the most amazing revelation here. Turns out there’s no human reviewing what the agent does, and no testing environment to make sure stuff that gets pushed to prod is even minimally working.

Technically, they have software that sometimes decides to lobotomize other software.

Sure, that’ll be the priority, but again, look at solar and EVs. Once production ramps up, these things start getting exported globally at way lower prices than western competition.

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Exactly, and the rate of progress there is just stupefying.

Might want to ask yourself why Chinese companies did this with stuff like solar panels and EVs, and the answer to your question will come to you.

A perfect example of why sovereignty is impossible when you can’t control your information space.

There’s zero chance of that happening given the EU relationship with Russia.

Once Chinese companies ramp up production, there’s going to be cheap RAM again. Also, the bubble will pop eventually.

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Not like they have much choice. Apple tends to be a bit ahead of the curve with these things too. I recall last time there was a chip shortage, Apple managed to skirt it because they massively preorded from TSMC, and got priority over everyone else.