• powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works
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    24 hours ago

    There is no “who”, it’s the process of evolution over billions of years. Our bodies aren’t blank slates.

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      17 hours ago

      Kinda feels like you dodged the question. I think they were asking you to define what it means to “organize around producing a gamete”, how folks that were never going to produce either fit into that definition, and how you construct sex as a binary despite that.

      Edit: looks like powerstuggle is responding to other comments but not this one. I think it is safe to assume they are going for low hanging fruit and trolling rather than actually trying to explain themself.

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        17 hours ago

        Sorry, you’re down in the list of comments in my inbox. They’d look for structures like these for diagnosis:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramesonephric_duct

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesonephric_duct

        There aren’t people born with bodies that just have “no concept” of how to produce a gamete, and that’s what I mean our bodies aren’t blank slates. Even if someone doesn’t actually produce gametes, the rest of their body is still structured in a sexed way, because we’re a sexually dimorphic species.

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          I see what you’re saying. Something like “there are two sets of characteristics and most folks grab from the majority of one or the other. Therefore we can place everyone into one sex or the other.”

          I feel like when I first read your comments I took issue with how black and white your words seemed. I still kinda feel that.

          Is there some structure that’s presense or lack there of definitely defines sex for every person? If so I think its fair to call sex a binary.

          I feel like I’d only be convinced if I could understand what makes the options only 0 or 1 yk? It doesn’t seem to be chromosomes, which is what I was taught growing up. X/Y Chromosomes have more that two ways of existing in humans.

          I’ll read through those wiki articles a bit. To me it seems like your saying that there is some kind of structure that has no middle ground in humans. It always only goes one way or the other. No variation. It’s hard for me to picture life doing that. If ya have any more info to point to I’d be down to look at it.

          Edit: for example, would Ovotesticular Syndrome be a counter example to sex binary?

          Edit: it looks like there is some variation in rare cases with the development of Müllerian ducts. So that doesn’t seem to be a binary.

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            13 hours ago

            Powerstruggle just trolls trans supportive posts for hours on end, judging by post history.

            You’re trying to reason with a bigot.

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              13 hours ago

              Damn that post history do paint a pretty consistent picture. Seems there is only one thing for powerstruggle to talk about lol. Same talking point too with the “organized around producing certain gametes.”

              Thanks for pointing that out.

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                10 hours ago

                To be fair, I also call out lots of other misinformation, like people trying to say North Korea is great, actually. That just doesn’t get as much activity. In this thread alone I probably doubled my number of comments, but only because so many people tried to argue with me. The user you’re responding to also seems to believe that people they disagree with are trolls, which is not how that works.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Fair, I guess I only looked back two weeks or so. Would you respond to my above comment that talks about Ovotesticular syndrome and variation in müllerian duct development?