Apparently Europe finally got Whatsapp to enable 3rd party chats making it easier to switch to more privacy friendly alternatives article However the only other app that currently works with it is “BirdyChat”??

Have anybody found any news about when serious alternatives will be integrated?

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    17 hours ago

    i cant even find a lot about it, but it seems grim and not like this will ever work with any usefull chat app.

    ~~apperently meta gets to pick it, and it is not a public api. ~~ (this is not true lol)

    essentially the corrupt eu politicians once again failed to represent the people. Just throw them all out already.

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      11 hours ago

      You’re correct, it is not a public API. In fact, just to see the specs, you need to be either an organization (or an indie developer) registered in the EU and have to sign a massive NDA just to get the documentation!

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      apperently meta gets to pick it, and it is not a public api.

      No they dont, and it’s a public modified Matrix-protocol. Why would you lie about that?

      The problem is that WhatsApp can demand third parties to meet very high standards, making it impossible for independent actors to gain access to this.

      You need a pretty well run machinery to live up to the standard, but if they do, WhatApps can legally not deny access.

      If they do, it’s in violation of the DMA, which gives you a 10% of all global income in fees.

      These has been used against Meta and Google before, and there’s no reason to believe they wont do it again. They actually live up to it.

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        11 hours ago

        WhatsApp was originally built on, and still is, a forked version of XMPP. It is nothing like the matrix protocol.

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          It’s not, but they made a WhatsApp API for the DMA. There’s a Matrix bridge to WhatsApp.

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        17 hours ago

        No they dont, and it’s a public modified Matrix-protocol. Why would you lie about that?

        Sry i read it on reddit lol…

        but so will there be a matrix client i can use soon? or not

        because i also read that signal wont do it

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          Signal wont do it because they cant use their own protocol. You still have to use WhatsApps, which makes it flawed.

          I also hope for good clients, but maybe the rules will change further before there’s any real use case for it. Maybe it’s too expensive compared to making your own?