Well it’s going to put a damper on my Ansible “coding”.
You think I want to properly learn that piece of junk? It was obsolete and archaic before it was released, and it survives on naivete and churn cost and nothing else. There is no part of my time doing yaml for Ansible that I want to actually retain or build on, and without chatGPT to slop-in the changes I need to make, I may be forced to do it myself. And I lack the crayons now and alcohol for after.
Actually subjecting my brain to Ansible directly in real-time is a horror. It is just so fucking lame compared to everything else – it even pales compared to the DevOps we were doing in 2002 before it was even called that. Let my have my robots to slop the Ansible and save my sanity !
seriously! i used to use chatgpt all the damn time but then i got into claude and gemini. they are WAY better for code. now i got cursor pro and i use that for all my shit because it’s got the AI agents, the browser, the code editor, and the terminal
pretty much yeah, lmao…STILL, i will do my best to be nice to everyone here, despite our many differences, because i’m so fucking sick of getting banned from everywhere. i racked up so many minor reddit infractions that i can’t even make a new account now. it is seriously the internet equivalent of getting a life sentence for three speeding tickets. fucking three strikes rule is so fucking stupid
Account age 19 hours and already behaving like an ass. Congratulations and welcome to Lemmy, a place with actual communities where you can expect to be blocked if you carry on like that. Please learn to treat people better!
i just got out of a manic episode. i was nuts and i said some very mean things to my family, but we’re backl to being on good terms now.
it wasn’t caused my LLMs it was caused by drugs (delta 8 THC, alcohol relapse (i’m a recovering alcoholic, used to drink 12-18 every night) also 7OH and adderall and ummmmmm
I think that’s it. Look, being bipolar makes you love drugs. But I’m sober now
Oh I get that, being AuDHD I got issues with different kinds of addiction, right now I just eat a lot and smoke a lot of weed.
Hope you finish recovering soon but I’m gonna be honest with you, drugs are not the only thing you can be addicted to and delegating research/tasks to a LLM can be addicting
This is primarily because search engines have become so unreliable and enshittified that they are useless. It’s not a mark in favor of AI as much as a reminder of how bad search engines have become.
For the record I do the same thing after failing to find anything on DuckDuckGo after multiple attempts. Maybe I should give Kagi a try, but AI is making the entire internet worse, so I feel pessimistic about that, too.
This is a bad faith argument.
Search engines are notoriously bad to find rare specialized information and usually return empty search results for too specific requests. Moreover you need the exact keywords while LLMs use embeddings to find similar meanings
Search engines haven’t worked reliably for several years now, the top results for almost any search are from social media pages that you can’t even read without an account. The Internet is broken.
No they didn’t and they still don’t really do that.
There are too many things (nowadays?) where you have to literally write a question on reddit, stack overflow or Lemmy or the likes and explain your situation in minute detail, because what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason.
Believe me, when I say that, because I always try search engines first, second and third, before even thinking of using some bs-spitting AI, but it really helped me with two very special problems in the last month.
what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason
Usually because the highest-rated solution is half-assed bullshit proposed by an overconfident newbie (or an LLM regurgitating it). I mainly use Stack Overflow as a way to become pissed off enough that I’ll go solve the problem myself, like I should have done in the first place. Indignation As A Service.
This is also in part true.
Today I was searching for multiple things regarding jinja2 and was always recommended a site that no longer exists, as top result, mind you.
And LLM’s aren’t gamed? Like Grok constantly being tweaked to not say anything inconvenient about Musk? Or ChatGPT citing absurd Reddit posts deliberately made by users to make AI responses wrong?
AI is built from the ground up to do what they want, and they’re no better than those crappy info-scraper sites like wearethewindoezproz dot com that scrape basic info off every other site and offer it as a solution to your problem with [SOLVED] in the result title. “Did you turn it off and on again?”
The “people learned how to game it” is called SEO, and you’re right, they did.
Guess what, there’s GEO to game the results of LLMs. It works just as well, is harder to spot, and traditional SEO platforms like Ahrefs and SEMRush are already training users on how to do it.
So congrats, the argument that using LLMs for search is s good solution because people learned how to game search engines makes no sense.
Its not a search engine, its a data digester. Dont use it as a search engine. Despite what alphabet, micro-shit, and DDG think, AI chatbots do not now, nor will they ever make good search engines.
This is a prime example of why access to these tools should be restricted to computer scientists and research labs. The average person doesn’t know how to use them effectively (resulting in enormous power wasted by ‘prompt engineering’), and the standard available models aren’t good at digesting non-linguistic data.
I’m not gonna downvote you, or be like all “AI is the devil and its gonna kill us all” but people need to use it correctly or we ARE going to kill ourselves with its waste heat.
And nothing of value was lost.
Well it’s going to put a damper on my Ansible “coding”.
You think I want to properly learn that piece of junk? It was obsolete and archaic before it was released, and it survives on naivete and churn cost and nothing else. There is no part of my time doing yaml for Ansible that I want to actually retain or build on, and without chatGPT to slop-in the changes I need to make, I may be forced to do it myself. And I lack the crayons now and alcohol for after.
Actually subjecting my brain to Ansible directly in real-time is a horror. It is just so fucking lame compared to everything else – it even pales compared to the DevOps we were doing in 2002 before it was even called that. Let my have my robots to slop the Ansible and save my sanity !
Ok, yaml is fair game for a LLM. Whitespace sensitive language should die in a fire, markup or otherwise.
Why do you say that?
seriously! i used to use chatgpt all the damn time but then i got into claude and gemini. they are WAY better for code. now i got cursor pro and i use that for all my shit because it’s got the AI agents, the browser, the code editor, and the terminal
What’s it like working in a field where you are completely incompetent?
i don’t work in the field. it’s a hobby. i’m a speech language pathologist. i have degrees from northestern university and UT austin
are you some kid in your parent’s basement?
What’s it like being an amateur that is so clueless you actually think you have any capacity to analyze what is good, better, best for coding?
what’s it like being a gpt 3.5 instance run out of a server in mumbai
Welcome to Lemmy, where everything is wrongthink.
pretty much yeah, lmao…STILL, i will do my best to be nice to everyone here, despite our many differences, because i’m so fucking sick of getting banned from everywhere. i racked up so many minor reddit infractions that i can’t even make a new account now. it is seriously the internet equivalent of getting a life sentence for three speeding tickets. fucking three strikes rule is so fucking stupid
You might be hindering yourself.
Developers took 19% longer to finish tasks using AI tools - https://www.techspot.com/news/108651-experienced-developers-working-ai-tools-take-longer-complete.html
most developers don’t know how to use AI. you don’t know to use AI. no one here does. I do.
I’m not even into tech whatsoever, and find you insufferable.
i’ve reviewed your comment history. you’re not a human. you’re not even a gpt 3.5 instance. i’m not sure what you are but you’re ancient
Account age 19 hours and already behaving like an ass. Congratulations and welcome to Lemmy, a place with actual communities where you can expect to be blocked if you carry on like that. Please learn to treat people better!
how’s that LLM-induced psychosis going?
i just got out of a manic episode. i was nuts and i said some very mean things to my family, but we’re backl to being on good terms now.
it wasn’t caused my LLMs it was caused by drugs (delta 8 THC, alcohol relapse (i’m a recovering alcoholic, used to drink 12-18 every night) also 7OH and adderall and ummmmmm
I think that’s it. Look, being bipolar makes you love drugs. But I’m sober now
Oh I get that, being AuDHD I got issues with different kinds of addiction, right now I just eat a lot and smoke a lot of weed.
Hope you finish recovering soon but I’m gonna be honest with you, drugs are not the only thing you can be addicted to and delegating research/tasks to a LLM can be addicting
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It works wonderfully well as a search engine, when I have to find obscure specialized info. Can always criss check once I have a idea.
Because companies destroyed actual search engines in the race for billions of dollars.
Kagi, searx are fricken awesome and much like the web in mid 2000s before corporations destroyed it.
This is primarily because search engines have become so unreliable and enshittified that they are useless. It’s not a mark in favor of AI as much as a reminder of how bad search engines have become.
For the record I do the same thing after failing to find anything on DuckDuckGo after multiple attempts. Maybe I should give Kagi a try, but AI is making the entire internet worse, so I feel pessimistic about that, too.
Regular search engines did that 20 years ago, without blowing out the power grid.
This is a bad faith argument. Search engines are notoriously bad to find rare specialized information and usually return empty search results for too specific requests. Moreover you need the exact keywords while LLMs use embeddings to find similar meanings
Search engines haven’t worked reliably for several years now, the top results for almost any search are from social media pages that you can’t even read without an account. The Internet is broken.
No they didn’t and they still don’t really do that.
There are too many things (nowadays?) where you have to literally write a question on reddit, stack overflow or Lemmy or the likes and explain your situation in minute detail, because what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason.
Believe me, when I say that, because I always try search engines first, second and third, before even thinking of using some bs-spitting AI, but it really helped me with two very special problems in the last month.
Usually because the highest-rated solution is half-assed bullshit proposed by an overconfident newbie (or an LLM regurgitating it). I mainly use Stack Overflow as a way to become pissed off enough that I’ll go solve the problem myself, like I should have done in the first place. Indignation As A Service.
This is also in part true.
Today I was searching for multiple things regarding jinja2 and was always recommended a site that no longer exists, as top result, mind you.
Ah, but you see, they don’t do it now.
Yeah then people.learned how to game it and its shit now. Pointing how something worked 20 years ago does shit all for how it works now
Speak of the devil. Just a few stories down
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/835839/google-discover-ai-headlines-clickbait-nonsense
And LLM’s aren’t gamed? Like Grok constantly being tweaked to not say anything inconvenient about Musk? Or ChatGPT citing absurd Reddit posts deliberately made by users to make AI responses wrong?
AI is built from the ground up to do what they want, and they’re no better than those crappy info-scraper sites like wearethewindoezproz dot com that scrape basic info off every other site and offer it as a solution to your problem with [SOLVED] in the result title. “Did you turn it off and on again?”
The “people learned how to game it” is called SEO, and you’re right, they did.
Guess what, there’s GEO to game the results of LLMs. It works just as well, is harder to spot, and traditional SEO platforms like Ahrefs and SEMRush are already training users on how to do it.
So congrats, the argument that using LLMs for search is s good solution because people learned how to game search engines makes no sense.
And now we have something better. I’m all for a better grid running on renewables though, which is the actual problem.
Its not a search engine, its a data digester. Dont use it as a search engine. Despite what alphabet, micro-shit, and DDG think, AI chatbots do not now, nor will they ever make good search engines.
This is a prime example of why access to these tools should be restricted to computer scientists and research labs. The average person doesn’t know how to use them effectively (resulting in enormous power wasted by ‘prompt engineering’), and the standard available models aren’t good at digesting non-linguistic data.
I’m not gonna downvote you, or be like all “AI is the devil and its gonna kill us all” but people need to use it correctly or we ARE going to kill ourselves with its waste heat.
Edit: ficksed an werd