I mean its literally right at the beginning in Surah 2:75 and 2:79, which is why I remember:
Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allāh and then distort it [i.e., the Torah] after they had understood it while they were knowing?
So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allāh, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
So the words of allah, such as the Gospel cannot be corrupted. So if the Gospel was corrupted, Islam is false. If the Gospel wasn’t corrupted then it doesn’t “confirm” the Qur’an at all, so Islam is false. This is the Islamic Dilemma.
Is such a weird argument that makes no sense from what you just provided. AFAIK the quote you gave is talking about “words of Allah”, which indicates his power and decree, ie everything that happens is because of him, and it will happen. Nowhere does it imply that his revelation cannot be altered by humans.
I would talk about the Qur’an also explicitly stating about its superceded position, but you quoted your first quote wrong:
Surah 4:57 is:
But those who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide forever. For them therein are purified spouses, and We will admit them to deepening shade.
So I’m not really sure which quote you meant to use.
As for the 7 versions, those were specific subdialects on how the pronunciation slightly changed that you can still find today but no one uses since they decided to standardize on one when writing it during the first caliphate iirc.
It says “after they had understood it” and doesn’t imply writing.
This is backed by 2:74
Even then your hearts became hardened like a rock or even harder, for some rocks gush rivers; others split, spilling water; while others are humbled in awe of Allah. And Allah is never unaware of what you do.
It seems to be referring to present tense. It goes on:
2:75
Do you ˹believers still˺ expect them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it?
So, a group of them corrupted it. Only a group would corrupt their beliefs.
2:89 goes on to make it clear they still had the scripture “in their hands”
Although they used to pray for victory ˹by means of the Prophet˺ over the polytheists, when there came to them a Book from Allah which they recognized, confirming the Scripture they had ˹in their hands˺, they rejected it. So may Allah’s condemnation be upon the disbelievers.
In addition, the Qur’an does ask it’s followers to check with Christians on if it’s true or not.
Surah 10:94
If you are in doubt about what we have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Book before you.
I also apologise for my typo. I meant 5:47, not 4:57 and have amended it
I mean its literally right at the beginning in Surah 2:75 and 2:79, which is why I remember:
Is such a weird argument that makes no sense from what you just provided. AFAIK the quote you gave is talking about “words of Allah”, which indicates his power and decree, ie everything that happens is because of him, and it will happen. Nowhere does it imply that his revelation cannot be altered by humans.
I would talk about the Qur’an also explicitly stating about its superceded position, but you quoted your first quote wrong:
Surah 4:57 is:
So I’m not really sure which quote you meant to use.
As for the 7 versions, those were specific subdialects on how the pronunciation slightly changed that you can still find today but no one uses since they decided to standardize on one when writing it during the first caliphate iirc.
It says “after they had understood it” and doesn’t imply writing.
This is backed by 2:74
It seems to be referring to present tense. It goes on:
2:75
So, a group of them corrupted it. Only a group would corrupt their beliefs.
2:89 goes on to make it clear they still had the scripture “in their hands”
In addition, the Qur’an does ask it’s followers to check with Christians on if it’s true or not.
Surah 10:94
I also apologise for my typo. I meant 5:47, not 4:57 and have amended it