Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?

Any thoughts?

  • Framptonian@lemmy.worldOP
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    16 hours ago

    They don’t! And that’s why I made no such statement!

    I repeat what I stated in response to somebody else:

    I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.

    Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don’t flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don’t flee to Europe?

    https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023

    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html

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      12 hours ago

      How dare you bring logic in our conversation? You even attached sources of your information? That it, you done it, I’ll report you!

    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 hours ago

      What’s the population of Germany again?

      Oh wait, 83,577,140 - so that’s just over 3% (3.589%)

      That’s fuck all. There’s more LGBT people in Germany than that.

      It’s fine and dandy to throw around big numbers, but put them in context

      • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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        10 hours ago

        And?

        You conveniently ignore the stats, in does happen, instead introducing a goalpost move, aka sophistry, in an attempt to “win” an argument, or at least derail OPs point.