• explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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    In general, shitting on other nobodies from social networks is weak sauce. It doesn’t look cool and interesting to new users. And it genuinely sucks to see a bunch of dorks jerking themselves off at how dumb you are, even if you’re right.

    But this community is lighthearted and cathartic. 🤪 I hope it stays this way. If they come visit, please be civil! There’s another person on the other side of the computers.

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      You have been banned from the DPRK. Glorious leader has spoken.

      Cowbee loves to act like he’s not in an echo chamber. All the tankies like him are just currently unemployed dictators. They’re like the people who simp for billionaires…just they do it hoping that they’ll be in charge when “communism” comes around.

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        a comment on reddit on a sub recently about voters, and they said tankies(i assume the leftist) dont come out in vote in elections, they just whine and bitch behind the screens, and give excuses. for terrible as they are , conservatives at least come in droves to vote all the time. ,most of the time.

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          thats why tankies and their sort will always fail.

          they’re just too cowardly to actually do anything.

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    I do share a concern with these comments though. I never comment here, but I do like laughing at tankie’s bullshit sometimes. However, these types of spaces are very easy and often prone to right-wing infiltration. And they can slowly but surely turn into a Nazi bar, and I think this is something to look out for.

    Again, I’ve never comment around here, and I don’t always check the comments. I’m not too familiar with the community, but I have seen some concerning things here and there. And in general lately I feel like Lemmy has taken a more centrist right-wing bend. I think we’ve had another influx from Reddit. I’m not sure, but I am a bit concerned. I might just be overly concerned. Maybe it’s my anxiety disorder at play again. Still, I think it’s worth keeping an eye on.

    I think there is more validity to this comment than is being given credit for, here.

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      Lemmy will never be right-wing, whatever that means anymore.

      but if ya spot anything you’re unsure of, or got any concerns, just voice em and i’ll see what i can do

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      reddit was pretty center right since '16, im not surprised. i dint see any ban waves recently from reddit. at least dint notice like the purges early in the year. i think reddit switched to doing more background banning because they realized they are losing too much users/engagement and only the bots are left.

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      If it helps, I don’t think I’ve run across any obviously right wing comments on Lemmy in a long time, at least not any that haven’t been ratioed to hell and back.

      Another fun story is c/conservative. It was started by a conservative, iirc, and for reasons I can’t fully recall, is now modded by leftists, and the whole community’s purpose is calling out conservative nonsense.

      The social fabric of Lemmy seems to be very anti-conservative, which is really refreshing for me, at least.

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        its hard to keep conservatives communities going, without constant propaganda bots, mostly from russia infiltrating it, like on REDDIT, where the conservative subs are mostly run by russian backed mods, and thier propaganda bots. because conservatives need constant drama in order to keep it going. they probably went back to reddit, or to X.

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        They were ratioed so consistently and hard that they left for at least another server if not entirely. Hillariouschaos iIRC. The community was considered abandoned and someone applied for stewardship of it and was given it.

        If you see a dead community you think you might be able to resuscitate and have the interest. Try contracting the mods. And if the mods have been inactive months/years contact the admins.

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      Most posting here would equally ridicule the auth right. I may generally disagree with the right. But when there can be open earnest discussion and openness to solutions, with those that identify as right leaning. You’ll find more common ground with them than either auth group that would other and kill you for your dissent.

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        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a right wing poster come in here or well anywhere on lemmy and not get absolutely torn apart.

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          That probably depends on your personal definition. If you’re talking magats and crypto fash then absolutely. But if we’re talking about socially liberal types we often refer to as progressives. Many of them are still rather pro capitalism. Despite being against oligarchs like the rest of us. They’re about, and that’s okay.

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    Lol if you’re not defending communist dictators, you’re fascist?

    They truly are missing a few screws.

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      Not defending communist dictators is unequal to drinking the cool aid in a nazi bar. You could do one without the other. You don‘t, tho.

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          Yes, thanks, that’s why the comment exists. You are drinking the cool aid in a nazi bar. There’s no need to engage in this toxic community, just because you don’t like people that you (perceive) as defending communist dictators.

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              Because chuckling with nazis is something I condemn in general, maybe you or others like to be aware of what’s happening, if you engage in this community. You chuckle with rightwingers, nazis, genocide deniers, fascists and naive people that don’t realise that. Which one are you?

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                You keep calling people nazis like that’s your one “gotcha”, everything I hate is Nazi. You people crack me up, but commenting here is kinda breaking the 4th wall. It’s kinda weird.

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                  I didn’t call anyone specific that (lately). But you seem fine with the kind of company you enjoy. I’m just saying stay away, if you don’t enjoy this kind of company. You enjoy chuckling with nazis, that’s regrettable, but your choice.

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    There is one reason I’m here and one reason alone. And that is because Lemmy.ml and allied instances refuse to allow open discussion and criticism of their ideas there. So we have to find another space for it. I suspect I’m not alone.

    Want to decrease the popularity of this community? Stop enforcing wrongthink and allow people to discuss your ideas openly. I guarantee you this com would quickly dwindle.

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      That’s exactly it. I disagree with a lot of people in this community. I also disagree with a lot of people on lemmy.ml and the like. The difference is that here at least I can disagree without immediately being banned. It’s great that the fediverse allows diversity of thought between different instances, but internally each instance is structured as its own little fiefdom, and lemmy.ml has some questionable leadership.

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    commenting specifically so tankies label me “fashy” while they actively defend dictatorships.

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    Some of the worst tankies on Threadi (that lack humanity and behave in the most regressive way possible) in that screenshot.

    Also funny how US-centric they are with their use of chud terminology. The vile pro-authoritarians can’t even imagine a world outside of their US-style fake commie online roleplay.

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    Sad that MotG is active and popular?

    That’s like a republican being upset that Leopards Ate My Face is too busy.

    Do they not understand how the material is generated?

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    “Cryptofash”, “fashy” 🤔

    Feels like bastardizations of already bastardized words, and I wonder if they’re using it to try to sound impactful while not saying much.

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      thats the same thing conservative used. they used things like shitlibs as tankies, or libtards as conservative exact same messaging.

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      One of the most important tasks in any propaganda framework is defining the words appropriately.

      In particular, the word for “enemy” needs to be carefully chosen.

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      Ah yes, of course the people who would have been allies with the Nazis up until the moment Hitler ate their face, the people who looked at Project 2025 and said “still better than Kamala though”, the people supporting extreme authoritarianism and proving horsehoe theory correct… those people want to throw the word “fascist” around 🤣

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        I hate it because all they achieved is making the word mean nothing. I everyone is calling the other fascist, then it is that much harder to call out actual fascists.

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            I don’t mean it’s hard to actually say it - but the word gets diluted. And when yo do call out a fascist, it may not carry the weught it should because it is used by tankies or actual fascists as a word for someone who disagrees with them.

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          Oh so they didn’t ally with Hitler, huh? 🤔 Dummy. Consider following your own advice.

          Welcome to the blocklist lol

          EDIT: also like, rightfully so that they were denied. The allies can be proud that they told bullshitters responsible for the worst attrocities in all of human history to fuck off. Genuinely the correct decision.

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            Just FYI. That’s a no life troll. The acct will be abandoned tomorrow. And they will still have no life.

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              No worries, I just instablock em. But yeah, it is more sad than anything when you think about the person behind the screen.

              “ItS tHe AlLiEs FaUlT wE BuDdIeD uP wItH hItLeR” is pretty hilarious though

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    I’d prefer it if it were possible to kick these chuds off the fediverse entirely

    And they still don’t see who they are…

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    Oh lord. And I thought the right wing chuds were kings of projection. These people genuinely live in an alternate reality. It’s equal parts fascinating, sad, and disturbing.

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          I think it’s more that a genuinely leftist movement in Russia was captured and subjugated by authoritarians and they spent 70 years muddying the waters about what leftism means with their powerful propaganda.

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            To be fair, this is largely why I discredit the left-right paradigm of politics. The graph adding authoritarian vs libertarian helps a bit, but it’s just too complex of a set of ideals to break into simple binaries.

            The .ml crew are genuinely leftists. They believe in the value of socialized systems and collective empowerment as opposed to individual merit. The problem is that they’re also authoritarian nutjobs who actively cover up and/or support the wholesale murder of out groups.

            Yes, there’s a decent argument that this isn’t true leftism, or a true belief in collective empowerment and the like, but that’s kind my point. Politics are too complicated for simplistic binaries. They carry a number of beliefs that are decidedly left, while simultaneously sharing far more beliefs than they’re willing to admit with the batshit insane nationalists that they claim to detest. They defend authoritarianism at every turn, while simultaneously speaking down to those they perceive as fascist. And not all of it - emphasis on “all”, as a good portion of it is - is as hypocritical as we’d like to believe. Our simplified political binaries just do a bad job of discussing complex ideologies.

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              I completely agree. Here in Brazil there’s a great example of how badly these binaries fail with Getúlio Vargas.

              He got into power with the help of the fascists against the communists. But he was an ultranationalist and those were foreign ideologies, so he persecuted both.

              He instituted many workers’ rights and was called big father of the poor, but was also a cruel dictator who committed genocide against the natives, and also persecuted white Europeans who did not had Brazilian culture.

              After being deposed he got reelected and committed suicide in a way that saved Brazilian democracy from a military coup.

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                Fascinating. I’m embarrassingly uneducated on South American politics, though I’ve taught a few EAL learners from there. I appreciate the quick history lesson, genuinely.

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        Well, they’re conservatives. Their chosen ingroup just happens to be leftists. Same behavior, different markings.

        By contrast there are right-wingers who aren’t tribalists blindly performing loyalty. You can spot them as they get booted from their party for insisting on yesterday’s bullshit over today’s bullshit. They’re the schmucks who actually bought their side’s propaganda, never realizing it was only a disposable cudgel.