• MurrayL@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I imagine they’ll try to make this increasingly difficult; maybe even impossible.

    • K☰NOPSIK@piefed.social
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      7 hours ago

      It already is for a lot of modern cars. Especially EVs. I imagine they are so tied into the functionality of the car that it makes the vehicle impossible to drive without the OEM headunit.

      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 hours ago

        Couldn’t a savvy user just find an exploitable firmware revision, never connect the vehicle to the internet, and install aftermarket software or hardware to bypass the authentication checks? It would be more of a pain in the ass than the previous drop in system, but I’d imagine it’s possible.

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          The vehicle comes from the factory connected to the internet.

          You’d have to find the exploit before they do, and it would be hard to replicate because once they find out, the only cars vulnerable to your exploit are ones manufactured before the patch who have been disconnected from the internet (which is like 2 cars).

          It’s theoretically possible but very hard to replicate. And on top of that theres always the risk of the car manufacturer voiding the warranty on your $50k vehicle and/or cozying up to your insurance company and convincing them any damage is a result of you preventing their systems from running as intended.

          It’s a messy high risk low reward game to play. Better option is to just buy a different car if you can.

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          7 hours ago

          Depends on how heavily things are locked down, and how much money this tech-savvy person is willing to risk on a bricked automobile.

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            5 hours ago

            If the auto industry successfully locks 99.9% of their buyers into their walled garden by making it such a pain in the ass to bypass it, they’ve already won.

    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I doubt it will be completely impossible - we’d just be returning to a situation similar to game consoles and modchips - any aftermarket parts need to lie to the “authentication” checks in place first.

      I would expect that certain aftermarket groups would specialize based on popular models, maybe even prioritizing models designed to be interoperable with others design and parts wise (Subaru and perhaps Toyota comes to mind).

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        If it doesn’t affect emissions those mod chips will not violate your warrantee - magnuson-moss was writen decades ago to protect replacing your factory radio. There are a number of other laws around third party access to car diagnostics.