• unfreeradical@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    They may be hypocritical. They also tend to be informed about current political struggles ongoing around the world.

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      1 day ago

      Bullshit. It’s all online roleplay. It’s either trying to be edgy, open and committed demagoguery or complete disconnection from reality.

      I will give you a good anecdote. This was when I still had a Twitter account.

      Certain commie statues were being removed in Kyiv and this was highlight by the British ambassador. Bunch of scumbag ML’s started to chimp out about this.

      My reply was: “You’ve never been to Ukraine, you don’t don’t speak Ukrainian, you don’t walk in Kyiv’s park, you don’t pay local taxes, you live in the UK and you’re coming up with this bullshit…”

      The reply I got was “This is your history!!! Communism bla bla bla”

      You got to be a special case of stupid to say something like that.

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      Made-up struggles, like Ukraine being a Western puppet used to fight Russia, rather than it being a dictator acting on his imperialist idea of rebuilding the Soviet Union. Ask a tankie about the Holodomor and you’ll see the actual depth of their so-called knowledge.

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          1 day ago

          Are you implying Putin’s own writings and statements come from the State Department or something?

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            Yep. You are dealing a person who straight up thinks it’s okay for Russia to invade Ukraine because the US also invaded a bunch of countries. You’ll hear a bunch of bullshit about history and geopolitics as parents post up pictures of dead kids.

            They are on the other side of the same coin as MAGA and they want their chosen team to win.

            These kind of people are always a problem. They only want things to get better for their groups and are perfectly willing to champion atrocity if it fits their views.

            Paying attention to the daily slaughter of Ukrainians who are victims of imperial Russia should be consistent with supporting Palestinians and the democratically elected Venezuela government. They can hold what seem like counter views because it’s not about atrocity against civilians. It’s about what side gets to inflict it.

            They truly believe paying attention to the Bucha massacre degrades the importance of US war crimes.

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            1 day ago

            The State Department wants you to feel strong animus and contempt toward Putin, while remaining ignorant and incurious respecting the more general political maneuvering and historical developments.

            In particular, it wants you to feel distracted from US imperialist atrocities and ambitions for imperialist expansion.

            Writings and statements normally will not be fabricated out of whole cloth, as overt lies, but they will be presented as cherry picked and obfuscated, serving as a distraction from deeper issues and broader background.

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              Why would I care about what it wants or what it wants specifically in your opinion? How much do you even know of Putin? What role did the US government play in how he came to power, including the 1999 apartment bombings, his handling of the Kursk disaster, as well as the Beslan and Moscow hostage situations? What role did it play in Putin’s political opponents being killed and persecuted even in the earliest years of his presidency? And his Ozero friends from before his presidency that would become filthy rich from corruption schemes involving the government? And his disdain for uprisings and the power of the people formed when he personally witnessed the protests during his time in Dresden? Let’s start there, before the Munich speech, the invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, influence and sabotage operations across the US and Europe, military involvement in Syria and Africa, wide-scale crackdown and killings inside Russia itself, and so forth.

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                23 hours ago

                It is certainly in your interest to be conscious of others seeking that you be duped or manipulated.

                The wealthy and powerful constantly deploy their massive resources to deceive the public into following a path that benefits those on top while keeping the mass of society repressed.

                The long history of the US lying to its own population to justify overseas wars offers only among the most obvious examples of deceit being employed by the privileged in favor of the privileged.

                As crises and discontent escalate around the world, the catalyst for such interests to create distractions from the real problems only becomes more substantial.

                Overcoming such challenges begins with our recognition that effective solutions will not be handed down from above.

                I have found it particularly ironic that Americans constantly lament the foolishness of trusting the government, yet they follow hook, line and sinker whenever state interests align with the public being made fearful of yet one more enemy.

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                  15 hours ago

                  Putin is many times wealthier than any US president, including Trump, and he certainly has more power from over 26 years at the top than any of those temporary figures. So yeah, best to follow your own advice and focus on the bigger picture. Moreover, as it’s been implied in someone else’s comment, the victims of Russia in a country like Ukraine who have to hide away in bomb shelters and bury their friends couldn’t care less about your take on the NWO. They don’t need to be told who the enemy is. They can look outside.

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                    10 hours ago

                    None of my explanation carries any relation to the relative wealth of Trump versus Putin.

                    You clearly are not understanding, and seeming so almost deliberately.

                    The bigger picture is that political struggles transcend any lone individual, isolated antecedent, or narrow objective.

                    If you want to discuss, please try to do so without relying on a straw man.