• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    The Switch 2 is the first console I’ve just outright skipped in… well… years now. I guess since the Wii U?

    Just every piece of news about it as it was coming out made it sound less and less appealing…

    $70 games (that never get discounted because Nintendo.)

    Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.

    Special SD cards that are more expensive.

    Microphone support requires a subscription after 1 year.

    Charging $10 for a hardware demo that should be included, like Desk Job on the Steam Deck.

    And, like you say, the remote detonation option, which is burning legitimate players:

    https://www.gadgetmatch.com/nintendo-switch-2-lawsuit-bricked-consoles/

    Generally with new hardware it’s “Hey, what’s not to like?”

    With the Switch 2 it’s more “What is there to like?”

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      10 hours ago

      Too expensive, too enshittified for me to consider. All they had to do was not fuck this up and they would’ve had a guaranteed sale but I don’t ever see myself spending a cent on Nintendo ever again.

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        8 hours ago

        You can complain with a lot about Nintendo, but it is not enshittified. Call it expensive, call it anti-consumer, whatever. But the Switch 2 runs phenomenally.

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          6 hours ago

          How is either Switch not enshittified when you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves?

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            you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves

            Jesus fuck. I hadn’t realized how bad things had gotten in Nintendo-land.

            How long has Steam been backing up saves for? I can’t even remember.

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      11 hours ago

      The Wii made me absolutely rage because those consoles were region locked, preventing me from playing titles I had imported from other countries that weren’t published by Nintendo north America. I never spent money on Nintendo products after that. The rest of my family was still happy with Nintendo, and they have continued to purchase their consoles. I finally got my wife invested in PC gaming 2 years ago, and it warmed my bitter heart to hear she wanted a steam deck instead of the switch 2.

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        9 hours ago

        That was always the case for Nintendo’s home consoles, not like it was a new thing that started with the Wii. Switch was the first one to be region-free.

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          8 hours ago

          This was not the case for Nintendo consoles in the past. I imported plenty of NES, SNES, GC, GB, GBA, and DS carts that were published in Asia/Europe, but not published in the Americas, and had no issues playing them until the Wii. Those consoles I just mentioned were all region free.

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            8 hours ago

            Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t region locking on the NES and SNES largely implemented via the shape of the cartridge? Frank Cifaldi and the VGHF just put out that NES history video, and it had some kind of authentication chip that could only be provided by Nintendo, and it was in the NES but not the Famicom. And on Gamecube, I seem to remember you needed an Action Replay to break the region locking, but I never dabbled in it myself.

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              5 hours ago

              I wasn’t importing famicom cartidges, I was importing NES cartidges that were not published in america.

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                Did you have a modded console? Without modification, the 10NES lockout chip prevents PAL cartridges from running on NTSC or vice versa. But it is possible to disable the chip to get around this.

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            8 hours ago

            NES and SNES were region-locked. In addition to an actual lockout chip, they even had different cartridge shapes so you couldn’t physically fit Famicom or Super Famicom games.

            Handhelds were not (until DSi and 3DS), but I specifically said home consoles.

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      10 hours ago

      Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.

      Generally agree with your post, but a large majority of games really are games. If they’re a download key, it’s very clearly labelled on the box.

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        7 hours ago

        The point they are probably trying to make is with a key you don’t own the game like you would with a hardware cartridge in older Nintendo systems. So you own nothing on the switch.

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          6 hours ago

          And the point I’m making is that only a handful of games are keys; the vast majority are still on the cart, same as the last system.

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      10 hours ago

      Yep, Switch 1 was much more interesting, and I still skipped it in favour of PC / Steam Deck.

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      11 hours ago

      I love mine. The FPS boost alone in Zelda and Pokémon made it worth it for me. Cheaper than the GPU I want for my computer too. Then again, I went all in on the Switch in 2017 after skipping the Wii U, so more performance is fine with me. I do wish there was more stuff announced, though.

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        10 hours ago

        I skipped the Switch because I did get the Wii U. They abandoned that system too quickly due to poor sales so I was a little bitter. I almost went with the OLED, but decided to continue waiting since I had other systems and PC to play on. It’s the first Nintendo console I have ever skipped.

        I did pick up the Switch 2, however, so I get to play all the games I missed over the years and any new ones. Glad I don’t have to wait so long on loading screens for Zelda like I did on the Wii U… which was painfully long.

        My Switch 2 is pretty much strictly my Nintendo machine. And yeah, just have to wait for them to come out with more 1st party games. I usually buy 3rd party games on other systems because the graphics tend to be superior.

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          8 hours ago

          Oh yeah, watching my girlfriend play her Switch 1 now is agonizing. Her birthday is coming up and I think I know exactly what I’m going to be getting for her.

          Games like Zelda now load so fast you can’t even see your stats on the loading screen. And ya know, that’s an okay problem to have.

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      10 hours ago

      “Never discounted” is just factually untrue, though. The biggest hitters don’t reach Steam-sale levels, sure, but I’m looking at $70 Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD right now on Woot. I’ve purchased a fair number of Switch 1 games for around $40 in the last year and some (like Mario & Luigi Brothership and Super Mario RPG) went for as low as $25 USD around Black Friday.

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        Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD

        That’s the thing. Such being considered a ‘discount’ is why people say Nintendo doesn’t discount games; why the Nintendo consoles end up being quite expensive when compared with a Steam Deck, where games are on discount on the regular.

        Not saying don’t enjoy the console. Just with prices like that, it’s hard to justify for many. gestures at OP’s article