• peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    18 hours ago

    If the group of racist homophobic people outnumber us, how did we form our collective? They weren’t anarchist to begin with. They aren’t entitled to our resources.

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      7 hours ago

      Because the world is more complex than simply one community forming an anarchist collective and then suddenly all groups of people are involved some harmonious syndicalism where everyone agrees on a basic set of standard social norms and ethical behavior.

      You might form an anarchist commune, and maybe a few miles away a remnant of the Hells Angels forms a white supremacist commune based on their own organizational structure. If they decide they want to attack and take your resources, you need a viable means of common defense. Which implies some form of social organization.

      If there’s an overarching government, if it’s well-designed and effective, with the correct goals and priorities, then it should at a bare minimum protect against basic things like violence, theft, extortion, racketeering, abduction, and human trafficking.

      And if your commune is powerful enough that it decides to be the one to enforce those norms, then it is a de facto government, no matter how decentralized you try to make it.

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        6 hours ago

        You can organize a response. The response does not need to remain organized after it’s accomplished what it’s purpose was.

        Also no institutions in existence prevent violence, theft, extortion, abduction or human trafficking. They can only respond to it.

    • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      12 hours ago

      what if they just take the resources since they’re stronger and greater in number?

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        9 hours ago

        Anarchists aren’t pacifists.

        They would do what any collective would do against an invasion at that point. Shoot back. If they are greatly outnumbered, then, unfortunately that society collapses. Hopefully there are survivors who can spread the word amongst other collectives to improve the changes for the next one.

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          7 hours ago

          You don’t think there should be some overarching institutions that protect against violence in order to prevent the biggest, strongest, meanest organizations with the most firepower from taking over and becoming the dominant force?