For context, in my password manager I had tried formatting some of my entrees so that it would contain the usual username and password, but instead of creating whole new entrees for the security questions for the same account, I just added additional fields in the same entree in order to keep things a little more tidy.

I was not expecting that doing so would result in later being shaken down by Proton to pay even more money just to access the same few bytes of fucking text I had trusted them with. This is sleazy as fuck and I am dropping these idiots entirely.

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      If you can, just self-host vault warden (compatible with bit warden and supported). Gets your data out of the cloud entirely.

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        I’m with you, but the hosted subscription is miles more secure than I can make my installation, and at $10 per year probably cheaper than the electricity to self host. Plus it supports the devs.

        But I do make regular backups in case I need to migrate.

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            Apparently the price increase happened yesterday; I hadn’t heard anything about it until just now. Gave me the push I needed to switch to self-hosted vaultwarden in like 15 minutes. Very pleased with how simple the docker compose and export->import were. I’ll note that I’m running it privately on my local network, which I’m assuming should work fine as my devices enter that network semi-frequently and should keep everything synced up(?).

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              Yeah, it’ll work fine. It syncs occasionally but you can also force a sync. Just make sure you backup somewhere (with an encrypted backup you can do it anywhere, even Google drive without privacy issues) incase of fire or wtv. If you’d like online access you could also setup wireguard with a route to it.

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        Why are you suggesting self hosting vaultwarden instead of self hosting bitwarden?

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      Bitwarden doesn’t do any of the stuff that makes proton pass extremely usable. You can’t easily manage logins and create them on the fly with custom emails in bit/vaultwarden. That is by far the most valuable feature of proton pass IMO, the seamless integration with simplelogin is just so damn convenient.

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        Bitwarden has an integration with simplelogin too. Enter an api key and it can generate random aliases on the fly.

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          Where? I can’t seem to find that option anywhere in my bitwarden app

          Edit: NVM found it, it’s just hidden by several clicks before it’s an option.