I’m wondering what XMPP clients people use and what they like about each particular one.
Not that I am looking for one, really just wondering what people like to use. :D
EDIT: Also, more and more people around me are starting to use XMPP, so it is good to learn what to recommend for various use-cases.
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Miranda-NG was great, but it’s Windows only and I have no idea how it supports latest XMPP features and such. Haven’t used XMPP on it for a while now…
Let me know if you try it again, would like to know if that’s something that I can recommend to those that are still on Windows.
I use and prefer Gajim but I would install the Flatpak version if possible, especially on Ubuntu/Debian or derivatives, because the one in the apt repository (at least for Ubuntu 24.04) is super old and never seems to get updated, and there have been several bug fixes.
Well, of course it seems outdated, Ubuntu 24.04 was released two years ago. :p
Gajim on desktop (love the new ui specially workspaces) and monocles (fork of conversations) on mobile. works great for me and apart of my servers hiccups every now and then as far as the clients go, I have no problems with encryption nor voip calls on the phone.
<rant aside of this topic>
I miss KDE Telepathy, and the Empathy framework, and that dream that we could have had IM fully and seamlessly integrated in our desktop environments.
Fuck Whatsapp. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck Zuckerberg. Mainstream IM of today is complete shit.
Thanks for your rant, you’re absolutely right.
Now, regarding the original question, what is good? Celebrate the great technology you use! :)
I use conversations.
What do you like about it?
During the Covid-19 pandemic I was very happy to use Conversations for video calls. Quality seemed better than with Signal during that time, and with Conversations you could resize the video window if you needed to do something on your phone during the call. I was not sure Signal could do that in these days. I also like Dino IM on the desktop but lately I don’t have any other people I know who can be bothered to use XMPP over Signal or email.
There’s a Dino fork https://dinox.handwerker.jetzt/ I’m not sure what to think about it, it looks too fancy and I dislike the Most secure part but it claims to do calls better than the original Dino IM.
Don’t worry about having people to talk to, XMPP is going through a renaissance!
😀
Yes, I’m on Dino too because it just works great and video is quite stable in combination with Conversations and of course it supports Omemo.
Before that I used Gajim but had to compile it myself and sometimes issues with plugins. Maybe it’s as easy as Dino nowadays.
Funny, I have had the opposite experience, As I said in my other post I recommend installing the Flatpak version. I;m not a big plugin user but I have had any problems with the ones I have installed.
I did try Dino first but didn’t like it, but I don’t recall why anymore - I was just switching from MacOS to Linux at the time.
Before that I used Gajim but had to compile it myself and sometimes issues with plugins. Maybe it’s as easy as Dino nowadays.
I’ve used Gajim last week for testing and installing it with Flatpak was easy. And I think I remember that for OMEMO no extra plugins were needed with Gajim.
IT worked. And i use it still to send Text between my Phone and my PC.
How does OTR work on it nowadays, or have XMPP moved to some other encryption?
Nowaydays XMPP uses OMEMO. It’s what Signal uses, but made to work with XMPP and with a different name for legal reasons.
OTR is not what you should use nowadays, it’s been broken.
XMPP hasn’t been very mobile friendly around a decade ago, which has in large part been due to OTR, which only works with two devices and both have to be online. Also, there hasn’t really been support for offline message storage.
A lot of other things have improved and nowadays XMPP is pretty much the most battery friendly option out there and Conversations can even be a UnifiedPush provider. Which makes sense as both Google’s and Apple’s push implementations are based on XMPP, so we know it works well.
I checked IT, its OMEMO. Its more game of Luck.
Problems with the OTR are the reason why i use mire Signal, Telegramm and Elements
Do you mean telegram as in the app that stores all chats in plain-text by default and uses a not recommended cryptography method?
I use Telegramm Only because a few Chans If interest are Here.
Still, huh? Yeah, that is why I stopped using it too.
On Linux, I really like Dino, because it’s one of the few clients that played nice with OMEMO. I use XMPP on my PC and on my phone and that seemed to trip some clients up.
I also liked Gajim on Windows for much the same reasons, but this was years ago, I imagine it’s pretty good now, too.
- terminal: profanity (really cool, it became what I regularly use, no audio/video calls though in which case a gui like dino can be used, syncing between the two)
- gui: dino (there’s a fork called dinox)
- android: conversations (from f-droid)
terminal: profanity
A thing I never knew I needed until right now, thanks!
Gajim. It’s still developed.
