France announced that it will roll out the Visio platform across all government departments by 2027.

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    9 hours ago

    How do they deal with the point that there already is an established software called Visio?

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      9 hours ago

      I think I don’t get you comment. Whom do you refer to with ‘They’? The French government is switching over to Visio, as per the article.

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        Microsoft has an app called ‘microsoft visio’. This is a different visio. That’s what they’re asking. But the visio stands for “visioconférence” which is their word for videoconference. Many people in France just say “I have a visio” when they have to use one of these apps, regardless of which one they use. So op is asking about a potential trademark infringement but I really don’t think it’s gonna be an issue because it’s such a common word.

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          8 hours ago

          Thank you for explaining! I agree with OP, that does sound super annoying for the end user. Trademark law can go fuck itself though.

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      19 hours ago

      … and on many of them I complain again that they made a whole new project instead of just using and contributing to Jitsi , which the FSF created expressly to counter Zoom/Teams :/

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        10 hours ago

        Actually, there’s also an official Jitsi server (called Webconf). And there’s another Big Blue Button one. I think Visio has features not available in Jitsi though, like AI-produced transcript of the call.

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          7 hours ago

          It is actually not hard to extend the software. I, for example, set up automatic uploading of cal recordings to a Peertube instance.

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            I guess. There must be a reason for them turning to something else than Jitsi given they already had that running (and the French service responsible for that, DINUM, is surprisingly extremely open-source friendly for a state service), but I don’t know which one.

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        It’s not a new project, it’s just skinned Element. Jitsi does not have the features of Element.

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          10 hours ago

          Tchap is the Element-based server. Visio is a different thing. Although you can trigger Visio from Tchap (like you can do it with Jitsi from Element).

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            No such thing as an Element based server. The server is Matrix. Element is the app. Visio is not a different thing, it’s just Element Call.

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              At first, I wrote “Element/Matrix” and decided to not be too pedantic… But if you want to be complete: the messaging protocol is, of course, Matrix. You could say there is actually no such thing as a Matrix server either, because it’s a protocol. The server must probably be Synapse-based, I guess. But there is an “Element-based server” in the sense that the web interface of Tchap (and phone apps) are very clearly forked from Element, which is what I meant.

              Visio is based on LiveKit, which Element Call is also based on (as far as I understand). It lives outside of Tchap. The DINUM never mentioned it was based on Element Call. Do you have additional information? (Not that the difference matters much I think)

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                You could say there is actually no such thing as a Matrix server either, because it’s a protocol.

                A Matrix server is a server that uses the Matrix protocol. You could be more precise and say Synapse but that excludes community-developed forks like Continuity, Contunuwuity, Tuwunnel, etc. etc. So yes, I maintain that is the “correct” terminology.