Basically, there was a discussion about how instances have rules and Feddit also needs to abide by local (Austrian) law to not get in legal trouble.
And I get called a Zionazi for saying that you cant just up and call for the massacre of civilians, regardless of which side you are on.
It’s also ironic for Dessalines to mock me for sticking to rules and laws to protect our instance.
Germany is not some dictatorship that bends rules. Hate speech legislation is in part determined by seasoned jurists specialized in hate speech cases and there are clear outlines. You are just mad because it doesn’t make exceptions.
To your question: If people glorify the war crimes of the IDF, are racist against Palestinians or are islamophobic of course they face consequences. But we don’t ban people just on the basis of being for or against Israel. It depends on the specifics.
I am mad because this type of legislation is inherently authoritarian and borderline fascist, it actually does benefit the modern Nazi party of Germany to stifle criticism and prevent historical comparisons. I’m not a neoliberal german nationalist like yourself so I’m not ever going to see that as okay, and the fact that you try to make anyone who disagrees with you out to be “just a bigot” continues to show what a sad pathetic neoliberal you are. I’m not scared or intimated by you. Maybe you’re used to people groveling before you because of your admin status and you think continuing to argue with me will intimidate me into apologizing or yeilding, but you have no points, no intelligent discussion of any kind. All you’ve offered is the same neoliberal Zionist apologia, and dismissal of anyone against you or feddit as ““bigots””.
Which comparisons exactly are prevented?
I can say the AfD is a nazi party. I can say I believe they are very similar to the NSDAP 100 years ago. I can say they oppose the German constitution, especially the human rights provisions.
Same with Israel: I can say Israel is fascist. I can compare it to apartheid. I can say Israel has since its founding enageged in ethnic cleansing and genocide.
The only comparisons banned are those considered hyperbolic. I cannot say the AfD plans to commit genocide because they simply don’t. I cannot say Israel is repeating the Holocaust because it’s obviously not. Anything off an order of magnitude or more is iffy at best and illegal at worst.
Really though, it’s a mild annoyance at worst to comply with hate speech laws. Slightly adjust what you want to say and you’re fine. There are far, far more restrictive German laws that actually stifle free speech - such as the ban on “protective weapons” during protests combined with police violence not being prosecuted.
mate it’s grossly offensive to call modern-day germans nazis.
AfD are nazis though.
yeah
prior to the edit it wasn’t mentioning AFD
I’ve heard the AFD referred to as modern day nazis. Maybe I should’ve embedded that for clarification. I was not saying Germans in general are Nazis.
thanks for the edit. while you’re at it, can you also edit out the triple quotation marks in your other comment?
It is pretty absurd to say the far right benefits from hate speech legislation when they are the ones mostly sued because of it. Don’t confuse hate speech with honor based crimes like libel which the far right can eventually use against critics. But we are also working on SLAPP regulation to stop frivilous lawsuits in their tracks.
Again I am not a neolib. I am a Eurocom.
And I don’t expect you to be scared or intimidated of me. I expect everyone to respect Feddit’s policy when interacting with it. No exceptions for antizionists are made.
This isn’t about making you apologize. I am not the one who went on the offensive and tried to coax others to brigade this thread.
They benefit because people can’t compare or call them the nazis they are. I already linked an article which shows this. Unfortunately I don’t think any understanding of this will be reached in this discussion.
Thanks, doesn’t change the fact that you act just like one (a neoliberal), you could tell me you’re a leftist anarchist and it wouldn’t change the fact you vomited lib talking points to justify Feddit’s atrocious behavior.
Good, because lots of admins do and it is patheic.
Nope I never mentioned this thread anywhere else. I offered a link to your profile on Lemmy.ml to show your last comments there before they banned you, to show the correlation, I never pointed anyone here or told them to go here. You really are pathetic.
Also yes you did mention this thread somewhere else. I got evidence.
Oh no you caught me what am I to do, I guess I’m just an everyday antisemite like Greta Thunburg now.
Oh wait, I wasn’t telling people to come here I’m clarifying that I’m here arguing with you. dbzer0 users can’t even see most of this thread because both you and goat are banned from there.
Dbzer0, YPTB in particular, often brigades this community. After you pinged MoG, I’ve noticed a few alt accounts popped up to manipulate the votes on this post, which is what typically happens when someone crossposts this community to YPTB.
It’s a problem with YPTB that’s been noted by a few different instance admins
Uhh, bans don’t make people invisible though. Blocks do.
That’s not how the anti-hatespeech law is written though. Don’t talk about stuff you know nothing about. Sechs, setzen!