It always feels like some form of VR tech comes out with some sort of fanfare and with a promise it will take over the world, but it never does.

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    I’m going to get downvoted for this

    Open source has its place, but the FOSS community needs to wake up to the fact that documentation, UX, ergonomics, and (especially) accessibility aren’t just nice-to-haves. Every year has been “The Year of the Linux Desktop™” but it never takes off, and it never will until more people who aren’t developers get involved.

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      Theres no singular year of the linux desktop as every year is the year of the Linux desktop, as long as Microsoft keeps shooting itself in the foot and Linux marketshare rises slow bit by bit

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      I get what you’re aiming at. My perspective is that the regular user typically is forced into a state of learned helplessness.

      You learn Windows and don’t look further because you learned Windows = normal computer, MacOS = fancy expensive computer. If you cannot see the problems it is very hard to sell the solution

      Regarding UX - that stuff is hard to get good. When you’re that good it’s often more lucrative to get paid for that skill set compared to passionately designing FOSS.

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      Funny you make “missing documentation” an argument against open source and for closed source, as if the average Windows user reads any documentation or even the error messages properly.

      your comment is a joke.

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          I’m not even a “regular user” per se, just not a software dev. I’m a network administrator working in a data center. I think a lot of FOSS devs think their users are like themselves, they love to tinker and don’t mind if their PC is a project. And sometimes I do like to tinker, but sometimes I need a computer to be a tool, not an end in itself, and desktop Linux rarely serves in that capacity.

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            Weird considering I need my desktop to just be a tool as well, and Mint really does that for me. Just my experience tho.

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      Not here to downvote. But I will say there is some good changes as of the past five years.

      From a personal perspective: there’s a lot of GOOD open-source software that has great user experiences. VLC. Bitwarden. OBS. Joplin. Jitsi.

      Even WordPress (the new Blocks editor not the ugly classic stuff) in the past decade has a lot of thought and design for end users.

      For all the GIMP/Libre office software that just has backwards ass choices for UX, or those random terminal apps that require understanding the command line – they seem to be the ones everyone complains about and imprinted as “the face of open-source”. Which is a shame.

      There’s so much good open-source projects that really do focus on the casual non technical end user.

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      While you generally have a point, the year of the linux desktop is not hindered by that. Distributions like Linux Mint, Ubuntu and the like are just as easy to install as Windows, the desktop environments preinstalled on them work very good and the software is more than sufficient for like 70% to 80% of people (not counting anything, that you cannot install with a single click from the app store/software center of the distribution.

      Though Linux is not the default. Windows is paying big time money to be the default. So why would “normal people” switch? Hell, most people will just stop messaging people instead of installing a different messenger on their phone. Installing a different OS on your PC/Notebook is a way bigger step than that.

      So probably we won’t get the “Year of the Linux Desktop”, unless someone outpays Microsoft for quite some time, or unless microsoft and Windows implode by themselves (not likely either)

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      I’m a reasonably new Linux at a place of trying to learn how to improve/optimise my system, and honestly, Google’s Gemini has become my user manual.

      If I can’t figure something out then I could trawl through a bunch of forums where the issue doesn’t really match mine, or the fix has changed since OP had the same problem, or I could just go straight to an LLM. I understand that they have a tendency to make shit up on the fly (this is a great example), but when it comes to troubleshooting setup issues they’re really helpful. And yes, I kmow that’s because they’ve already ingested the support forums. But it is genuinely so much quicker to sort things out, while learning as you go.

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        It’s made a world of difference to me in my IT support services business. It’s not always right, but it’s always helpful even when it isn’t. It’s far better at looking at a page of log information and picking out the one bit that explains why the thing I need to work isn’t working. I’ve been emboldened to do a lot of projects that I was previously uncomfortable with. The key is I know enough about nearly anything that I can tell when im being led down a garden path.

        The quality of the prompt is everything.

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          It’s far better at looking at a page of log information and picking out the one bit that explains why the thing I need to work isn’t working

          Yes. I can post a terminal output into it and it’ll tell me exactly what’s not working and why. And that’s incredibly valuable.

          Ironically, I used Gemini to help me build a little app that takes a copied YouTube link and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin server in a format that’ll play nicely on my Apple TV. I can’t imagine how I’d approach achieving that if I had to start from scratch.

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      Huge difference between having it and not needing it and needing it and not having it.

      I think the person you’re replying to is 100% correct since you’re coming at them so heated