Haudenosaunee (“People of the Longhouse”) is the autonym by which the Six Nations refer to themselves.[23] While its exact etymology is debated, the term Iroquois is of colonial origin. Some scholars of Native American history consider “Iroquois” a derogatory name adopted from the traditional enemies of the Haudenosaunee.[24] A less common, older autonym for the confederation is Ongweh’onweh, meaning “original people”.[25][26][27]
Edit: come on, it’s just a word joke from a none native speaker. Culturally appropriate and cultural appropriation is pretty close no? I never realized until now and thought it was funny.
Having worked directly with these communities and their material culture, this is what I was taught, but I am happy to be corrected if there is another better perspective.
Edit, Edit: I get the joke now, but you’re all trapped in here with me now, so here’s an info-dump: I used “Iroquois” interchangeably until about 2022, which is right around when the American Anthropological Association and the Smithsonian made the formal switch. While “Iroquoian” is still used as a technical linguistic category, “Iroquois” is being phased out as a name for the people because of its colonial origins and its potential interpretation as a slur. I remember hmming and hawing about it back then, but ultimately, as I’ve learned more about Indigenous sovereignty, “Iroquois” just feels increasingly dated now in any context.
No worries, it was not the most clear joke (it went over people’s head I think, seeing the downvotes).
All jokes aside though, coincidentally I just finished reading Robin Wall Kimmerer’s “Braiding Sweetgrass”, which has reinvigorated my respect for the Haudenosaunee and the Three Sister’s. Such a great read! I’m a student of ecology at the moment, and I studied Social Anthropology years ago so it was double interesting.
The Iroquois are the Haudenosaunee. The latter is the more respectful and culturally appropriate term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
I did not know this before. Thank you!
Don’t culturally appropriate please
Edit: come on, it’s just a word joke from a none native speaker. Culturally appropriate and cultural appropriation is pretty close no? I never realized until now and thought it was funny.
Having worked directly with these communities and their material culture, this is what I was taught, but I am happy to be corrected if there is another better perspective.
EDIT: I checked, since I am old and sometimes out of date. The Smithsonian and Library of Congress have switched terms since about 2022 to Haudenosaunee. https://americanindian.si.edu/sites/1/files/pdf/education/haudenosauneeguide.pdf
Edit, Edit: I get the joke now, but you’re all trapped in here with me now, so here’s an info-dump: I used “Iroquois” interchangeably until about 2022, which is right around when the American Anthropological Association and the Smithsonian made the formal switch. While “Iroquoian” is still used as a technical linguistic category, “Iroquois” is being phased out as a name for the people because of its colonial origins and its potential interpretation as a slur. I remember hmming and hawing about it back then, but ultimately, as I’ve learned more about Indigenous sovereignty, “Iroquois” just feels increasingly dated now in any context.
I’m guessing this won’t last for long, given some people already call the language family “Ogwehoweh” instead of “Iroquoian”. Example here.
I agree with you, it was just a word joke
aaaaa lmfao sorry autistic moment
No worries, it was not the most clear joke (it went over people’s head I think, seeing the downvotes).
All jokes aside though, coincidentally I just finished reading Robin Wall Kimmerer’s “Braiding Sweetgrass”, which has reinvigorated my respect for the Haudenosaunee and the Three Sister’s. Such a great read! I’m a student of ecology at the moment, and I studied Social Anthropology years ago so it was double interesting.
I prefer her book on Moss. Check it out if you have not!!!
I didn’t know of its existence, thank you! Such a spot on recommendation
If the shoe fits, Dr. Bryophyte. ;)
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It’s a joke based on the different definitions/pronunciations of the word
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/appropriate
Don’t speak please
How am I going to phrase requests then?
sudo make me a sandwichstyle?